Tony Demarzio "Acquiring Big Cards" E339

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What is up, everybody? Welcome to Episode three nine of Sportscardination Podcast. Got my good friend Tony Demarzio on today's episode and glad to have them on. We have a lot in common. Uh and uh, you know, good guy from the Philly area.

My nephew's down there as well as the Philadelphia Firemen and Philly man they've blown up. I mean it's a big city, big great sports down but seems like in the last five or ten years hobby wise, that area has really uh you know, playing in its flag if you will. So big ups the Philly and Tony's a lifelong native and obviously a fan of Philly sports. We're gonna chop up the hobby.

And Tony's a good guy, been doing it, you know, he came back. He was in it as a kid like a lot of us, and then came back. So we're gonna learn all about kind of his trajectory. Their little house cleaning note.

My new show breaking cardboard, my new old show breaking cardboard started last week, which had Mike Petty on episode one, as will be in every other Friday show Live nine pm, every other Friday, and I'll release the audio on this platform here the following Monday after the show. What does it entail me with guests or guests, very low key, a little different than the show. We'll kind of a little bit let her hair down, a little more laid back, have some fun, and open some packs as well. So we'll open up, you know, anywhere between three and six packs and episodes at different points could be who knows what kind of packs, old school, you know, junk, wax era or vintage current, You never know.

So people love to see that stuff. So love to see you live in the chat room on a Friday night, but worst case, you always hear us on audio on the Monday following. One more thing. I was looking like I was not going to go to the National in Chicago, and you know, my wife kind of talked me off the latch, you know, which I don't want to say it surprised me, but maybe a little bit.

You know, She's like, hey, if you don't go, you know you're gonna you know, wish you were there, and that sort of thing. So I've had an nice run of shows. When I say shows, I'm talking about card shows as a dealer, so made some you know, kind of late in the game, but made hotel arrangements, flight arrangements, rental car so, you know, God willing, I will be there for the National this year in Chicago. You know, she's right, I wouldn't miss it.

But while Chicago's a great venue for me, it costs a little bit more in the wallet just because I can't drive to it and got a fly and so that's an added expense. Got a rental car, that's an ad expense. But I'm not crying poverty, just you know, gonna have to save up my pennies and so I can buy some cards while I'm at the show as well. So happy to announce that I will be attending here in about you know, one hundred and twenty days.

It's coming, so about four months away. So with that being said, quick commercial break and we'll be back on with my good friend Tony Demarzio. Iron Sports Cards is your number one source for all your PSA and other grading submissions. Their elite status improves turnaround times.

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Rob's got you covered, all right. I always say I'm really excited to talk to my next guest, and I always am, Well, I really am excited to talk to my next guest on the sports car Shop. I guess I got to meet him this past year in Cleveland at the National and the events there and the morninghand get together. Probably you know, I'm gonna say what to me, one of the nicest guys uh in the hobby's nicer than me, I'll give him.

I'll give him that much, but one of the nicest guys. Uh. And nob he's got a great collection on top of that. But uh, glad to finally have him on.

Tony Demarzio, welcome finally to sports Garden. Hey, John, thank you for having me. Well, well, you know, let's not get too crazy, but no, glad to have you. And uh, like I said, I've gotten to know you, the meeting you in person and subsequent commerce.

Online on the phone and what have you. And you know, like the tagline of the show, right, the hobby is the people and hopefully those people that you sort of affiliate yourself with are good or great. And you check those boxes, you know, I use the two A words, ambassador and the advocate. You check those boxes.

So great to have you, you know, first time on it. I know it's not always an exciting question, but we got to start there kind of where did you know, how did the hobby all start? How did this crazy hobby get started? For me? It got started back in nineteen eighty four. I was able to find some packs of eighty four tops, came across a couple of packs of eighty four don Don Russ, and then started buying deck and magazines and the rest is history. Yeah, And you know, we had a conversation not not recording about some of those eighties designs.

Some of those early Donors designs were pretty bad, to put it bluntly, but that eighty four Donors I know, when speaking to you about it, we both love it. I think one of the even to this day, you know, forty something years later, forty one years later. It's it's it really stands the test of time, and not a lot of those designs from the eighties do. And the eighty four don Rous like to me, you know, we don't really know who designed you know, these these early Donors uh sets, but I got it without knowing for sure.

I could be wrong here, Tony. It's it's like the. You know, the eighty one and the eighty two guy or person. They're like, hey, good try, we're getting someone else in here.

And whoever did the eighty four like hit it out of the park, and the eighty five is still one of my my other favorites, and that was the obviously you know, subsequent year. So like those two years for Don Russ, you know, were to me, we're home runs between the design obviously the rookie class and and that sort of thing. And and still to this day, you know, I love it. And you can't say that about stuff that's always forty years old, especially well, you know, people would call like the Junkquacks era a little bit before, I like to think, but you know, getting getting close, Kenny, your thoughts on piggybacking off what I just eighty.

Four Don Russ and and eighty four Flare Update are my two favorite sets of from the nineteen eighties and also growing up. They hold a special place in my heart. I was able to get my childhood Madden Glee Rookie and that was one of the first ten cards I ever got graded and I got according to my PSA sub I was able to get into my account. That was two thousand and four.

It was the first time I ever got cards. Great. So now you like eighty four Flair because I did a little bit better than I do. I know.

We talked about again. Well I like the Don Russ better, but the eighty four Flare Update with Clemon's good in seehear and that Rookie class, it's just unbelievable. Rose and we're in the expos uniform. Yeah, that sets back good memories and band memories for me.

Tony. I owned a set it was sort of inn. Uh in my PC and during my store years in the nineties. I don't know why, but I brought the set to the store even though I wasn't selling it, and it was kind of in the back room and I had not a I had a partner in the store.

But we also had another guy that kind of helped us out and worked for us, and wound up he stole all the key cards out of that set and went and sold it to another store in a nearby town. And it's a long story, but I never saw those cards again. So it's you know, it makes for good, good contact kind of to talk about, but not a not a fun movement at the time. But yeah, that set is is is just iconic for the work and what could have been too.

I mean, when you think of good and Strawberry, you. Know so, but the eighty four down Er us I'm twelve years old at the time, born in seventy two, and I was broke because of dinas and anyone that's heard heard my stuff knows I got a big a thing for rookie cards with with close uh you know, facial shots like the Manningly eighty nine upper deck Griffy, and so that eighty four Diners basically bleeded my wilet dry cuts consistently. So but that just goes to show you how, you know, how much I love the design and the cards that were in it, and you know, to me, it's it stands stands to test the time. Unlike many things from the eighties in the hobby, that one that one still checks all the boxes.

For all the boxes. Every box checks. Yeah, and it's just an iconic uh An I kind of accept and uh, you know, I even have a few packs I put away that sometimes I'm tempted to, uh, you know, what's in it? It could there be. I mean, I remember in eighty four I was on a really bad streak of opening eighty four downers and not hitting the manly.

I was actually getting you know, twelve year old kid mad and and you know, so I remember that. That's probably why I don't open them up. You know, you you you've got quite the collection like me. You like vintage.

That's I think, you know, from a selfish you know my opinion. Uh, I think that's where it's at. I think, you know, today's you know, as a dealer, I carry I carry new stuff, but they just you know, it's all a blur. There's so many you know, we talk about artificial scarcity and and you know, I don't know about you.

I like the days when you know, a guy had one rookie card or maybe three at the most. And now you know, Rookie coming out is gonna have a thousand different rookie cards, you know, talk about kind of. Your pro to, what you collect, what moves your meat. Just to talk about the different rookie cards and everything.

At the Philly Show, my son picked up two cards. One is the twenty eighteen Panini Contenders Saguan Barkley, and he liked this card. Obviously, he's we'rening a giants and we're from Philadelphia. But it shaped like a ticket stop, so the top of so the top is perforated like a ticket stump would be well before tickets went on the iPhone and other phones.

And he picked up a Jalen Hirts twenty twenty National Treasures rookie card and it has a solid black pouch, not for many games, not game worn or event worn. But it's just one of like fifty or two hundred rookie cards each of these players have in their respected years. But I guess with you know, my son's going to be sixteen, and to him, I guess he likes to have the variety of buying a rookie car that either has an autograph one card or a sticker or a prism or shiny or you know, multiple different options, So I guess, uh, I guess Panini and tops. You know they check all the boxes for these younger kids across the price points.

Yeah, yeah, no, no doubt. Listen what kid? I mean even me, I don't want to just say kid? Right too? When I open new stuff, right, the sort of adrenaline rush of pulling an auto or a game use card. And then when you know you got a game use card, is it going to be you know, is it gonna be single colored? Is it going to be part of the patch? Are going to recognize what part of the uniform it's from? That sort of thing? You know, our error Tony, We didn't have those back then, Like this is uh a, it's not new now, but it's a new concept when we compared to kind of what we we grow up to, uh in you know, and and we're all our product of our environments. If for some reason we had that back and we would have loved it back then.

So I get it, and you know, we can we could go down the road of. Like you know, not game use not any specific game that's a whole show in itself, but uh you know, there are there are you know, game used Jersey cards where they are guaranteed to be using the game, and then some some products or even hologram and they tell you what game it actually came from, which I think is always cool. I I don't have it any longer, but I remember even a Confordo patch card I had which had part of the Mister Matt. On it, which was really cool.

And they had that hologram which you scan, it tells you the game that he board that and it happened to be a game he went like four for five with two home runs. And I watched, you know, I went on YouTube and they had the whole game up up on YouTube, so I literally watched the game and I'm watching the patch in action. That's you know, was sitting in my office while I was watching the game, which is kind of a you know, kind of a weird cool moment, uh the thing. But uh and that's always cool that you have those ties and uh, you know, when Confordo left the left the Mets, someone someone wanted it still and I wounded up selling it.

But kind of a cool card, cool conversation piece. But you're you're a vintage guy like me when it when it comes to PC. You know, how would you describe kind of what your PC? Obviously Philly, you know you're you're Philly native and. Mike Schmidt, Steve Steve Carlton.

Yeah, so it probably starts there. That's kind of the low. But what what when you when you're looking to add something to the PC, what like what what kind of moves you meet or what are you looking at? So I got out of the hobby as for short, you know, as a sabbatical as what we call it, in late to in late nineteen ninety two, and then I came back in uh twenty eighteen, and then stayed in for eighteen months. And the first thing I did was I went on eBay.

I learned about PSA, and I said, oh, okay, because I got cards grade in two thousand and four, so I knew what PSA was. But I went on eBay, and eBay had some tremendous coupons where you get fifteen percent of the time. I ended up buying the PSA seven and eight runs of every single Schmidt card from seventy three up, and I usually concentrated on OPG. And then I picked up the Carlton cards too, And in twenty eighteen, they were pretty inexpensive compared to what they are now, even in PSA eighth grade, and so that did it for me.

I picked up a couple of Reggie Jackson's also because I was a Reggie fan growing up. After Shmind and Carlton, and then I kind of drifted away and then I came back in late in late twenty twenty two, and then I'm thinking to myself, Okay, I've been out of the hobby, give or take for thirty five years. So I tried to think, what did ten year old Because I was born in nineteen seventy six, So what did ten year old Anthony is what they called me? Then what did he like? Well? I liked modern cards, but I always had a fascination with the greats. Who were the greats to me Mickey Mantle, Demaggio May's, Robin Roberts, McCovey and those types of guys.

And I'm like, okay, so I always wanted them as a child, wasn't able to afford them, so let me go get them. So I was able to, you know, wait till the market kind of settled down a little bit, and we had a couple dips in twenty twenty three, and I picked up a lot of those looky cards, and you know, the Aaron Johnston Cookies and the Aaron Tops fifty four tops, and it was a lot of fun. And then once I got all those cards I always wanted during this thirty five years of being awl from the hobby, I decided, well, you know this Joe Demaggio is great, but I never had a Baby Ruth Card. I never had a Gary Card or Jimmy Fox, Christy Mathewson.

So then I started going down the pre war rabbit hole. And that's when it's just, you know, everything changes, because you know, not only you just don't have the one base card per year with maybe ah you know League leader cards associated with that or a Tops test issue, but you have other types of cards. You have manufacturers. You know, you got camel card manufacturers that were candy makers, tobacco maybe you know the tobacco cars and so on.

So I got into that. A little bit. And then the autographs, but mainly vintage, pre war and some of the stuff from the fifties and sixties. Then I got into the odd bowl stuff, you know what people call oddball, So like the Johnston cookies, the sixty eight tops, three D, the Venezuelan cards.

Opg's just you know, trying different things and seeing what, you know, what attracted me to various aspects of the hobby. And the cars are great, But what I found out was a lot of the hunts I had and a lot of the items in my collection they would never be with me if it wasn't for relationships I made in the hobby good friends. And that's clutch because you're talking to a lot of these folks online and then at the national or these regional card shows, you're able to get to talk to people, then you meet them and then before you know what, you're talking to folks about maybe twenty five percent of the hobby and then and then the other seventy five percent is more about what's going on in life outside of the hobby, sports and families. And I mean, I just met someone in the hobby six months ago and it turns out that person works at the same company I did.

I had no idea, Wow, talk about Yeah, it is a small world. So just you know, it's just like you said, the hobby is the people, and you know, pieces of a cardboard, they're great but you know, without the story and the people behind them, you know, and they're just pictures of brown men. Yeah yeah, well said. And someone's at my door.

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To check out all the latest news or to subscribe to the hobby's oldest magazine, visit Sports Collectorsdigest dot com or call one eight hundred eighty two nine fifty five sixty one. Sports Cognation has reasons. Talk about, you know, like you said, you kind of sabbatical for a number of years and then to come back after all that time, was it easier than you were expecting, more difficult than you were expecting, And kind of talk about like, you know, not being in the hobby and kind of coming back now you were you know, it was a different hobby than the one you were familiar with. While some things were similar and obviously was much different, the terrain was much different.

Talk about kind of coming back after all that time, like how you did it, maybe any kind of difficulties you ran into and you know how you navigated all that. So with modern stuff, and I'm always concerned about monic because of my children. My daughter whose twelve Clucks Formula one. My son started collecting cards in twenty fifteen with the Star Wars and soccer cards l Football.

So the reason I got out of the hobby in nineteen ninety two is because I bought a Shaquille O'Neill Tops Stadium club card and I dealer wanted twenty five dollars. I was able to get the card for about twenty dollars and I was all happy. I got Shack's key Rookie and he's the hottest thing. Now.

You know, you had MJ, then you had Robinson, and now you got Shack and I got Shack. I was all happy, you know, friends were proud. Saved up money and then a month or two later, the latest Beckett magazine hit the news stand, picked it up, and I found out there's a Bean Team card, and not only is there a Bean Team card, but there's a member's only being team card. Now my card is going down in value, whereas these inserts are going up.

So the inserts drove me away from the hobby, just left to be a taste in my mouth. So now it's twenty eighteen, I'm only buying vintage, really, but my kids want to buy modern stuff. So the hardest part for me is learning to accept that with the modern cards, you're gonna have these inserts, You're gonna have these parallels, these variants, and you got to learn about them because you don't want your kids to get a little uh you know, you don't want the kids to get taken advantage of or getting bumped because they just spent one hundred dollars on a wax on a blaster pack and then you know, they get nothing out of it. So that was the biggest adjustment in terms of that.

Now, with regards to the vintage items that I always wanted as a child and I got into it, not too much has changed other than the prices obviously. I mean the first vintage card I remember picking up was in nineteen eighty seven. My grandparents and my dad saved some money and I was able to go to Berlin Farmer's Market. It's in it it's outside of Philadelphia in New Jersey, and I picked up a sixty seven tops Mickey Mantle and one of my favorite cards because when you look at the Mick, you know he was nearing the end of his career.

His production obviously wasn't what everyone was used to, but it was a nice profile picture. And I remember I was listening to one of the first uh YouTubers I watched at that time, John John Keating, and John's talking about this card and he's referring it to the Uncle Mick card because he looks like he had a few Mickeys gears in that card. So vintage, the biggest adjustment was not only the increase in prices but also the amount of people going after it. But luckily, you know, you got enough supply for that demand, and you know, unless you're looking for Christine fifty fifty fifty five to forty five centering that was and then and then the grading that was that was part of it, obviously, because degrading influences how much it cost.

So it wasn't so twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three for me wasn't like it was in twenty eighteen, where I was able to pick up these PSA sevens, these SEC sevens and eight you know, which were pretty cheap things. Things went up quick. So I just had to learn to pivot and I sold some things that were you know, that I collected when I was outside of the hobby to help fund my current hobby. So that really helped me out in terms of, you know, taking the ding out of the out of my wallet, you know it, you know, out of it a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, no doubt, and uh yeah, the pricing can be crazy. You know, I'm not gonna read, but I've told my Jackie Robbins, you know Rookie story. I could have bought it many times much cheaper than I eventually had to purchase it. But don't regret it.

It's right behind me over my shoulder here, and you know that's the that's the fun, right, is to acquire something we've always wanted to, even if it's later. Uh then we wanted to get it. You know, you know, you grew up in the. Eighties, you know, collecting we kind of talked about that already, where we had you know, it wasn't just tops anymore.

We had Donos on Flear Score eventually came. Along in eighty eight, upper back in eighty nine, and so on and so forth. I'm not gonna lie. I enjoyed those days.

I know. It's you know, as it's referred to, the junk wax error, and much of that is in common boxes or landfills. Well, one thing I do mess for sure is you know a number of manufacturers competing in the arena to try to best each other and make the best product. And now with the exclusiveness of Fanatics and the license the way it's been now for a number of years, not new you know, I kind of miss the days.

Even though I don't open as much new stuff as I once did, I still do as a dealer who wants to put some cards out in the showcase and have some of that selection. I you know, and again it's a pipe pream. I don't know if we'll ever see those days again, and if we will, it won't be in the next few years. It'll be some time.

But I hope someday we can have multiple manufacturers making baseball cards, basketball, football, hockey, with insert whatever sport you love, because I think, especially nowadays, I think even more so, I think that will drive the best out of companies. And I know you don't You know you mentioned because you care because your kids are right in that wheelhouse for age, even just for them. Like thinking, aback what I just said. I mean, do you do you kind of miss those days or not? Necessarily? It doesn't necessarily do I do? Because even though Flair in the nineteen eighties they were headquartered out of Philadelphia, I can't find Flair.

Flair eighty five, I found a little bit, eighty six Flair could I can't find Flair anywhere eighty seven, same thing, And I don't know what the reason was, just find them. Don Russ. By eighty six, Don Russ was nowhere to be found. So I was forced to buy Tops.

So me buying Top pretty much most of eighty five and eighty six and eighty seven was kind of like Tops had a monopoly in my market in terms of availability. So I guess that would be familiar with how it was before nineteen eighty one buying cards. You were forced to buy tops. Yeah, there was a few other sets there, you know TCMA and the uh and that's uh, what's the uh set SSCP.

Or Yeah, then you had the golosso. Yeah, glosso so there, but there was no competition and I feel like that's where we're at now. We're not heading there, we actually are there, you know, at the Philly show and my daughter was looking for Formula one blaster box to buy and Fanatics makes I mean, there's no other making it. So the innovation's not there when you don't have competition, so they have a monopoly.

And unfortunately, you know, nothing I could say or do it can. You know, it is what it is, and we just got to hope that you know, Fanatics and on stops to keep innovating and eventually, you know, the Midjor League Baseball and the NFL players associations and the leagues they come to some conclusions where they're willing to deal with multiple card manufacturers again instead of just the exclusive contract for you know, for one of them until then r at their mercy. Yeah. Unfortunately, yeah, yeah, you mentioned here you're in Fleer's backyard.

I'm I'm a Brooklyn kid, so I'm in top back yard. No shortage of taps. What I'm curious to to your theory, Like you, you had the opposite problem I had taps was it was everywhere in New York City, in the New York Company. Here you are in the home of you know, the birthplace of Fleer basically, yet you had trouble fighting it.

Do you have any theories to why where you think they were just just shipping it to to other locations and not so much worried about local sales or or what do you think. I think it was people flipping them. I think I think you know collectors, because in eighty five, at least in my area, that's when I noticed adults going into stores and buying packs and buying boxes. I just think that the Mama Pop stores which sold boxes, because at that time, distributors were actually corner stores.

So corner stores could be Mama Pop stores, you know, like a seven eleven sized store, but it would be owned by a family, and you also had cane the wholesalers distributors, and they would sell cards alongside with the case of now Lators and M and M's, And I think just people were buying them and they were holding on to them because they thought that this is their retirement, you know, twenty years down the road, thirty years down the road. And since tops were plentiful and the price guides always had Flair and Don Russ at least from eighty four on to be they were more valuable, at least in the price guides. I think that's the reason why I couldn't find Flair, because they were the hottest thing along with along with Don Russ, sport Flix was available. Not too many people were behind them in eighty six and eighty seven in my area, even though I liked them.

But I think that's the reason why. I just think that the flippers got to them. Yeah, I can see that, it makes sense to potentially why. And you mentioned sport Flix, and you know that was something completely different that we really haven't seen prior.

Now we've seen Lentickler cards, right, we did those catalogs three D sets from the early seventies and eighties, but you know, they didn't move. They just looked three D with this sport You know, I like the Sportflix, but like you said, that was sort of either loved them or you hated them. There was really no one between that I think. I think the haters outnumbered us told me out of the sport Flix, but I kind of liked them.

I mean, the worst thing about out of him was that because of the size and thickness of the cards, you only got like three in the pack instead. Of a dollar pack. Yeah, I remember, Yeah, and instead of your ten to twelve or more, you know, of of your regular stock cards. So that was the dowb I think I think that's what people disliked more tony about the sport Flix was just the amount of cards you pulled out of a pack rather than rather than because the guys swinging the bat or putting the glove down the field, that's pretty cool to see.

It's like a little movie. In your hair, like you know, in a sense of one or two second clip that you couldn't get any on any other kind of cardboard. And I always got a kick out of him. But I think between the cost and the amount of you know, the limited cards you were getting per pack, I think that sort of killed sort of the buzz where me and you still still kind of appreciated him, and it's it's funny.

I still have them in this room in different spots and I even think there's some wax over there that's that's still sealed, and so there's a nice thing. Have you ever opened any sport flicks all these years later? They don't stick together like some of these other cardboards cards, so I avoid that. Last year at the Belly Show, I went to Brian rolf Stable and he had a bought three boxes of eighty six Flare because now I'm making up for my childhood, so as like ten year old me now, so I'm satisfying ten year old Tony. I bought a three boxes of eighty six Flare and I bought a box of eighty six sport Flex and I opened up one of the boxes of Flare.

I'll save the other one for the National and I kept the sports Flix box close, but I really want to open it up because it's cool stuff. And I opened. I only opened up one or two packs in eighty six of that brand because it was just too expensive dollar pack for a ten year old. Four And now you can buy transcended for thirty thousand dollars a box.

If you were complained about Dollar Sport, now we're in the error where you could buy a box for thirty k you know one one third or one fourth of my house is a box of cards. That's that's crazy to think about, but you know it's a different time. And you know a dollar a pack, you hit that three digit mark. That was a big deal back then.

So for my four yeah, go ahead. I was gonna say, just talking about expensive boxes. For my forty ninth birthday, February ninth, it was on the same day as Super Bowl, my son got me a pack of Absolute twenty twenty four football and I don't know how much it costs them. I would guess at least seventy five to eighty dollars easily, and I think we got twenty dollars worth of cards and Max.

Yeah, that's how that. Sometimes we have fun. Listen, your Eagles delivered on your birthday would so. So while the the box may not have been fruitful of the game, the game more than probably made up made up way to celebrate your birthday.

My birthdays in November, and the way the Steelers are going, I'm just hoping I live long enough to see another Super Bowl. I don't care that it won't be on my birthday. I just hope I'm still. Around, uh to enjoy one more one more time at least, but h that's a show for for another day.

Great having Tony on the podcast. Good dude, Uh, you know knows what he wants to do collection wise, has a direction. Uh. Like I said, got to meet him in Cleveland and pleasure getting to know him even more and more.

We have a lot uh in common as much of as most of us do. And but sometimes you just click with someone and get along and Tony's one of those type of guys. And we're not done with Tony just yet. He'll be back for part two in the conclusion of our conversation on next week's podcast.

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