Hobby Quick Hits Ep.190 Saturday Shows>Sunday Shows

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Newman welcome to episode 190 of hobby

quick hit it's today's topic is going to

be Saturday shows versus Sunday shows

and I'm talking about one day shows

where it's not both Saturday and Sunday

I believe Saturday shows are better I

don't know about you but this episode's

going to Deep dive that with my own sort

analytical iation as someone who's done

plenty of Saturday only shows and plenty

of Sunday o Sunday only shows so I'm

going to State my case for why Saturday

shows are better stay

tuned okay now a quick word from our

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the weekly releases starting off on the

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Panini impeccable soccer trar Hidden

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it guys thank you let's Go Round The

Hobby verse and catch up on this week's

hobby

news and find

out all right folks I think the probably

the headlining story for this week is

Fanatics is cancelling their Orlando Big

Show that they had planned uh citing the

Hurricanes yet we do know in the same

very Convention Center

uh the week before that was scheduled uh

an event uh took place uh 30,000 people

attended that event that went off

without a hitch the underlying Whispers

is that vendors did not flock buying

tables to sell out the event so it's

more financial I'd appreciate it uh you

know we talked about this on hobby

hotline uh a few days ago it'd be more

refreshing for fanatic sort of to be

honest to why these cancellations are

occurring they cancelled Pittsburgh and

that wasn't hurricanes in Pittsburgh so

maybe trouble getting you know vendors

to buy all the tables and sell out the

event Financial stuff and I just think

they're trying to to go too big too fast

and I think they're finding out uh that

that's not how uh the hobby always works

so uh off the heels of Pitts

cancellation now Fanatics Orlando show

uh is cancelled uh rumors are that it is

being moved to the first quarter of

2025 uh Panini has signed an exclusive

deal talk about timing with uh Detroit

Lions uh Superstar Defender Aiden

Hutchinson it's an exclusive autograph

deal obviously this deal was in the

works and happening before for the

season ending gruesome injury uh to

Aiden's uh leg we wish him a speedy and

healthy recovery and he should be back

uh in 2025 maybe even potentially for a

postseason run uh for the Lions but uh

you know can't blame Panini is a great

young uh sack artist uh in the NFL and

re again there's got to be life for

Panini after their license expires and

they're doing you know whatever they can

to to scratch and Claw so uh kudos to

them uh GameStop and PSA have a new

partnership you can drop off your cards

at GameStop

$19.99 uh per card

$4.99 uh shipping uh cards valued $500

or less it's a

45 uh day turn around um they do have

higher service levels available for

different price

there there's no minimum and says no

paperwork so I I guess GameStop's going

to do all the paperwork for you although

if I'm dropping my cards off for PSA

submission at GameStop I want something

on paper that says that I brought these

cards and what they were uh there that

kind of makes me uh a little nervous uh

I would be just nervous giving someone

who knows about the Legend of Zelda my

cards and maybe not what a Ricky

Henderson rookie is but to each their

own it's a partnership I'm sure they'll

work out some of the Kinks I don't know

long term if this is going to uh last I

don't know if I mentioned it but uh 45

day turnaround so you should have your

cards back in 45 days uh but uh we've

heard that before too so I I don't know

if that I don't think that's uh

guaranteed and we'll finish with another

big story

you might remember The Wil Chamberlain

rookie graded an SGC 10 uh through SGC

that went for $1.7 million in a private

golden sale well the buyer of that

card attempted to cross it over to

PSA and it did that and it got a PSA

10 uh as well so that SGC 10 will is now

a PSA 10 wi same card uh crossed over

you know I heard some people saying the

you know the risk involved in doing that

um he didn't crack it out right you can

for those that don't know you can sub a

card in its holder with the with the

caveat that if it's not going to get the

grade you want that it stays in that

holder so if PSA determined that they

weren't going to give it a 10 it would

have remained an SGC 10 um they deemed

it would be a 10 according to their

scale know they cracked it out and it

has a new holder um you know uh I guess

to each their own right he wanted it he

or she wanted it in a PSA holder so now

their wish came and now our Feature

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Presentation all right the subject we

are tackling today is Saturday card

shows versus Sunday card shows and I

know there are card shows that are both

days of a weekend let's say so this

really doesn't come into play but I'm

talking one day shows and I do both

Saturday card shows and Sunday card

shows I used to do a lot more two-day

shows I really don't do that anymore now

I've done a Saturday and a Sunday in the

same weekend but in different location

the show on Saturday's one place the

show is on Sunday another place and what

I found through you know did my first

show in

1987 uh which is 37 years ago that's

crazy where does the time go and so I've

I've noticed over those years and it's

not a recent discovery but maybe maybe a

little bit more noticeable in the last 3

to five years but you know I'm not

saying I don't have good Sunday shows I

do um but what I've notice is my SAT

when I do a Saturday show there's sort

of a different vibe and and I've had

some really outstanding Saturday shows

on the financial side of and no it's not

all about the Benjamins contrary to rap

songs but yeah if you're a dealer right

you want to do well and then I just

thought to myself why is Saturday shows

seem to be better or more fruitful when

compared to Sunday again this is not I

don't do well on Sundays and I just do

well on Saturdays I usually do well on

both days but Saturday shows you know

and tracking you know I keep track of

sales and uh for tax purposes and

Saturday shows just Trend better in that

side of the column so why is that right

it's easy to say it but where does the

evidence come in how do the facts bear

that out why is that the case and you

know I have one of the the shows I do

I've tried to convince the promoter to

really go to a Saturday show uh and uh

you know it's a traditionally Sunday

show and been a little bit resistant if

you will and I get it and it's his baby

right I you know I can do what he wants

I have a choice right not set up or stop

setting up but I do well on Sundays too

I just think it would be an even better

show on a Saturday so so why you know

it's easy for me to to get up on my soap

box and say Saturday shows are better at

least here in the central New York and

New York area but why and it may be like

that and other places too but why for

for my argument why is that the case and

I think the number one reason is NFL

football right you know we hear baseball

is America's pastime football is the

number one sport and I say football

American football the NFL is the number

one sport uh in the United States the

ratings of TV bear that out fantasy

leagues and betting also bear that out

as additional evidence and I can tell

you when I do a Sunday show and during

football season 12:30 one o'clock that

Convention Center that building where

the show's being held really really

empties out significant significantly

and even in some of my best Sunday shows

probably 80 90% of my sales have become

were were obtained before 100 p.m. time

uh here on East Coast uh as football

starts and people leave and head home to

watch their favorite team or just watch

football right football is a sport

people just don't even have to watch

their favorite teams it's one of those

kind of sports where like I'm a Steeler

fan but I can watch two other teams that

are not the Steelers play football I

love football enough uh to do it and

when I'm not at a Sunday show I'm more

I'm nine times out of 10 home watching

football whether that's the Steelers or

two other team uh play but why else on

satday it can't be just one thing right

it's got to be a combination

of a multiple of things and so I wrote

down a list of why I think that is I

just gave you I think what the what's

the number one reason especially during

football but I think for a lot of us we

spend more money on a Saturday why I

don't know is it psychological but

Saturday is kind of like you worked all

week it's you you know if you don't work

weekends it's your first day off after

hopefully not a too tough of a work week

but you're kind of unwinding you're glad

that a day off you're a little bit more

I don't want to say if loose is the

right term but a little bit more free

with your disposable income right I

think on a Saturday and I can tell you

that personally I feel that way right

you sort of treating yourself I worked

hard this week it's Saturday right uh

it's been in songs about Saturday's a a

fun day right and I think Sunday is you

know become obviously church for many is

on a Sunday morning it's time to start

winding down getting ready for the work

week again you know food prep making

lunches lawn work uh Again Church you

know to-do list honeydew list um

Sunday's kind of the you know uh believe

in that it's kind of the day of rest as

well to get ready for you know another

work week if you're a Monday through

Friday guy like myself and so I think

Sunday's viewed as sort of a Down quiet

day to get ready for the upcoming work

week I think it's it's also viewed as a

family day you know hey you know we're

not going to do a lot it's Sunday uh

time to uh you know unwind at home or

get things done uh at home and I see the

difference when I do a Saturday show and

I do a Sunday show you see the

difference and The Vibes different even

with people it's it's hard to sometimes

explain that's what it is it's sort of a

A vibe it's you can't put your finger

exactly on it but it's just a a feeling

you can get right and you know another

reason Saturday like I think married

couples and again I'm not wanting to

paint again I know I use this line all

the time with a broad brush but I think

a lot of times card shows for for

couples can be a negotiation right hey

honey I'm going to go to the card show

on Saturday but Sunday I'm going to be

home all day whatever we need to do

around the house we got to go grocery

shopping the kids got this um I'm yours

for the day give you know couple couple

hours Saturday for the show for me and

Sunday we'll get ready get things done

and button things up uh for the week and

I've had that's not I'm not making that

up I've had conversations where people

have told me that that that's either a

negotiation or just an agreement or

sometimes it's an Unwritten thing or an

unsaid thing it's just the way uh it is

but I think Saturday in our mindset too

as collectors as consumers that's kind

of the day I think if you look up the

stats and I'm sure there's some some

analytical data out there I think you'll

see there's more money being spent on

Saturday economically you know in the

macro world then the Sunday I think

Sunday we're just kind of butting

everything up and kind of clamping down

and getting ready uh for the work and

you know I'm not going to lie I get more

I I love doing card shows as a dealer

whether it's Saturday or Sunday I still

get excited I still look forward to it

yes it's a grind um but not a grind to

the point where I don't want to do it uh

anymore but there's work involved right

uh and um I've done some things in the

past few years to make the grind less of

a grind I've I've paired down uh how I

bring stuff in or what the stuff is in

and make less trips in and out of the

show to set up and and tear down I used

to do all my stuff in alphabetical order

I've uh ditched that in terms of to to

pack up and unload uh quicker uh my

process is very fast you know I used to

joke on this show that I was the last

guy out of the show uh no matter where

the show was or or or what day it was

that's no longer the case I'm not the

first one out uh yet either but I'm

somewhere I think in the middle which

was never going to be the case with the

way I used before to the point I've said

this my son who used to help me out stop

helping me out because it would take me

too long I was very OCD and methodical

uh packing up everything had to be the

players had to be an Al B of order and

he just wanted to go and and you know

throw the stuff in the Box pops let's

get out of here and also even the way I

present my cards they're already a lot

of before I had to put them in a

different display and then put now I

sort of already have them in what

they're going to be in so it's a matter

of just putting down tablecloths and

getting it out um but going back I I

went off on a little tangent there I

still get amped and and and excited for

Saturday and Sunday show but I'd be

lying if I told you that I didn't get a

little more amped up for a Saturday show

because I know as crazy as it might

sound I know the vibe's going to be

different number one I know people are

going to be a little bit less tight

fisted with their dollars if that makes

any sense and I also know yes there's

college football I get that but the NFL

is King we all know that and so Saturday

you know if the show's to 4:00 there's

going to be people there 300 3:30

there's going to be later sales than

traditionally on a Sunday and I'm not

saying I'd never make a sale at 3:00 or

3:30 but I will tell you this I make

them a lot more Saturday at that time

slot went during you know again # during

football Seas right but even not during

football season Sunday's just got a

different for a lot of the reasons uh AF

for mentioned that I already talked so

if I can only do one day show in the

choice is Saturday or Sunday it's a

layup for me to be a

Saturday all right thank you for

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