Hobby Quick Hits Ep.145 Stop Labeling Hobbyists!

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hey everybody welcome to another edition

of hobby quick hits

today's topic labeling in the Hobby and

I think we've all been guilty of it at

least once if not more including myself

but and and again not all labeling is in

a negative connotation but some of it is

and you know I've you know the older I

get hopefully the wiser I get I just

don't like labels you know I just don't

know other than if it was a job

description which is a title not a label

I don't know what purpose they serve I

think a a high percentage of them are

sort of have a derogatory

connotation to it and you know I'm I'm

not fond of using them uh and I think

we're seeing more of that as the hobby

sort of gets segmented and uh you know

we like to uh and you know it's been

going on for the dawn of time right uh

we we put labels on people on things and

um again not a fan we're going to kind

of I'm going to delve into that maybe

why it happens how we can be better

myself included and you know stop doing

it and uh and even though what's

happening uh also there's two sides to

that coin right uh if it bothers you

sort of how you can sort of just uh you

know block out that white noise and just

uh keep doing uh whatever you want to do

within the hobby so that's what we're

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The Hobby verse and catch up on this

week's hobby news

lots of new stories to cover the last

two weeks I think everyone's heard the

next one

Matt Howell of New Jersey went into

Bob's Sports Cards bought a pack of

National Treasures

and got quite a card he got the one of

one Babe Ruth

game use Jersey

and supposed to be cut Auto

uh however George Brett cut Otto uh was

in there rather than the uh Babe Ruth

not sure if there's a George Brett card

rolling around with a Babe Ruth cut but

the Babe Ruth uh card has a George Brett

cut the owner of the store uh contacted

Panini and uh was are told that that

will be uh rectified uh and that's all

we know at this point in time not a

great look on Panini although it is

getting a lot of Buzz and they say no

you know there is no bad publicity so uh

Panini getting their name uh out in the

hobby news uh that story sort of making

uh the rounds and having an extended

life I'm always a sucker for a good

Jackie Robinson Story uh that's not a

story but a card 1952

Jackie Robinson classic card tops a

graded CSG one it's a low grade uh 52

tops Jackie but this one's not your

ordinary Jackie 1 8 of the card

is miscut and contains

the iconic 52 Topps manual just the

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miscut onto the Jackie but getting a lot

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uh speaking of another auction uh golden

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um so we'll see where this auction uh

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a complete 1953

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graded 53 top set somehow no cards are

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it to bring about 600k is the expected

uh auction value of that set great set

one of my favorite sets and

somehow that's the fourth best on the on

the registry with only two cards lower

than a seven so three other crazy sets

out there that I'm sure the owners are

going to be keeping a close eye in this

auction to see you know where it winds

up because there are three sets somehow

or above this one in in the rankings

last but not least great story Upper

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if you want to grab it now's your chance

and Kudos through Upper Deck for

producing that uh overdue cards for

those players that that you know made it

to the league but didn't get the their

cards uh in a card set

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all right guys this one can be sometimes

a a sticky subject because you know when

the time when we talk about labeling

someone you know again it's not always

negative uh um a lot of times it's not

positive so you know everyone every

instance is its own uh scenario uh I try

not to do it but 99 of us do it right or

high percentage of us do it I do it a

lot less now than I've ever done before

and even when I do use labeling you know

or label someone something it's really

not in a negative connotation you know

for example say someone is into the high

end of the hobby right because they are

they're spending four five six figures

or more you know on cards that's I don't

think we can argue that's high end right

uh nothing wrong with that you know

we've heard the label uh flippers right

people who get a card one day and soon

turn around and sell it the next day or

very quickly soon after

um I've done that I don't consider

myself a flipper but I've acquired

something and within the same week

probably resold it I don't really

consider that flipping I just consider

it resale but you know we we when that

Crescendo happened in the hobby we had

the influx of people coming in uh that

were sort of in the make a quick Buck if

you will and buy on Monday sell on

Tuesday we use the term flippers and and

I when I use it I don't even use it in a

negative connotation right we see shows

on TV right flipping houses uh you know

flipping storage uh bins via auction

right it's just being an entrepreneur

and making money and transacting and in

this case transaction in the hobby are a

positive things right

um sometimes a label can be looked at as

both positive and negative so for

example new money right if you follow

the show for an extended period of time

you you know it's not one of my favorite

terms they know I I had Susan luzaraj on

it's a term she was using and I wasn't

fond of and and she was on the show we

talked about it and she said like she

doesn't mean it in a negative way and

and I just try not to use that term

because you know has the money aspect

and you know we were all new money at

one time or another right for me I was

new money in 1979 as a seven-year-old

kid probably knew not much money would

have been what I would would have been

labeled at that time as I was just

buying uh packs and trading and that

sort of thing but I was new money at

when I first got in the hobby I just

it's sort of a poker a poker term that I

think we've adopted in other uh niches

uh hobby including I just try to avoid

it new hobbyists a new collector I might

refer in those terms but uh you know to

teach their own right but I've really

made a conscious effort folks to really

not use labels anywhere near you know

where I may have before I know it can

people's feelings can get hurt another

term that's really I'm hearing a lot

lately two terms actually purist and

true collector and if you ask me what a

p I'm not human sure I know what the

definition of purists in the hobby means

like aren't you know I I think when

people are called Pure as they mean

someone's been in a hobby a while

old-fashioned sort of set in their ways

maybe a little bit and I guess I I guess

I'd be a purist but I would never label

myself a purist I'm just a hobby right

so we you know true collector what does

a true collector really mean if you keep

anything for your own personal

collection PC aren't you a true

collector does true collector mean you

don't sell cards at all because if if

that's really what it means then I'm not

a true collector either I do set up and

shows as a dealer but I have quite a PC

if I might be so bold to say that's I'm

collecting Hall of Fame graded Rook

right that's my PC am I not a true

collector so some of these labels I

don't even and I've been doing this a

long time and I don't even know really

what the definition of them are and if I

don't know the definition of something

I'm definitely not calling somebody that

right I'm gonna try not to call anyone

any names anyway but if I don't know

what what the definition of something is

I'm not going to throw that at you and

put it on and we've seen to me we've

seen more of that seen a lot of YouTube

shows with that in the titles I've heard

content referred to it or talk about it

much like now I am on hobby quick hits

and I'm just I don't I don't really want

to do it uh and you know may probably

the closest I get to it is using the

term flipper or you know part of the

high end part of the hobby

um and and those aren't in a negative

connotation uh flippers are in any part

of attrapreneur Oriole type things and

in any part of business right people buy

stocks one day and sell it the next

they're flipping stocks people buy

houses fix them up and flip them rather

quickly there's nothing wrong with that

it doesn't make them bad people matter

of fact makes most people very smart

especially when they come out ahead in

that equation so uh you know someone

asked me as a seller of cards they're

like John or do you consider yourself a

flipper no I consider myself a dealer

who pays sales tax on this Transat you

know if you want to call me a flipper

because I might acquire something and

sell it in the same week or a couple

days later you know not it's more the

exception and the rule I'm more of a

will hold inventory type deal but you

know I've been called worse than a

flipper let me let me just put it that

way so I'm just not gonna take exception

to it uh if it's not if it's coming from

a non-maliciously you know but a lot of

times these terms as you well know out

there come from malicious places right

they're meant to hurt feeling or to make

someone look bad and I'm just I'm not

going to do that and I wish you know I

hope you out there if you if you're

doing it you know consider not doing it

um if you're not doing it no kudos to

you and don't fall down that uh that uh

prat fall right and um you know that's a

two-sided coin if if you know we also

too you know if we're called different

things hey you're a purist or you're not

a true collector or you're a true like

we gotta stop worrying too much about

what other people think and I don't mean

that exactly the way it sounds they got

you'll hear me on my content right hey

let me know what you think of the show

give me your feedback I care what you

think and that's all true not lip

service 100 true there's there's been

segments of the show that don't exist no

more because people said John hey not a

fan of it don't like it I know your

intentions were good just doesn't play

well uh out there so I I I appreciate

that feedback but at the same time I

can't lose sleep right over every name

I'm called or label that might be put on

me and I think we've got to be a little

thicker skinned at the end of the day

you know there's a million people in the

hobby I don't know what every one of

those folk are saying about either the

show or me or whoever and I can't really

worry about it right and and so I only

worry about what I can control and I

wasn't always like that as a younger

person I was more nervous about stuff

like that trying to make everyone like

me wanted everyone to like me and then

you get older and you're like you know

what I'm going to be myself I'm going to

give my honest opinion and let the Chip

Fall wait where they may and and I've

gotten thicker skin I've gotten to the

point where I do care what you think uh

as long as it's uh constructive and not

malicious and if it's malicious I've

learned to sort of turn that other cheek

right just kind of uh you know I I know

a lot of malicious stuff comes from

people who are unhappy themselves and

that's where I hang the Hat on that pet

that hey that person being a jerk or

mark because they're just unhappy

they're trying to get as many people on

their unhappy boat as possible and I'm

not jumping on that ship so I'll just

kind of keep it moving as the cousins

would say and uh you know and not not

going to go there and um you know uh but

we gotta I think we need to do less

labeling We're All in This hobby

together I don't care if you're buying a

hundred thousand dollar card or you're

buying a twenty dollar card or a quarter

card out of a Bargain Box We're All in

This greatest hobby as Dr Jim says uh in

in in the world together however you

choose to do it again disclaimer you're

doing it the right way not doing

anything illegal or malicious right

we're all in this fraternity called the

sports card non-sports card hobby right

Trading Card hobby even you know I'm not

a Pokemon guy but people big thing right

we're still in the hobby of trading

cards together we we've sort of got to

embrace that sort of way of thinking I

think and it's what I kind of do you

know I may I may not do something I may

not might not be my cup of tea but I I

don't look down upon anybody everyone

has a different thing they enjoy or or a

way they want a hobby and uh can we can

uh we can share the floor the show floor

uh together and and share a lot of

common uh traits and common feelings uh

you know get away from labeling that

being said you know if you you know we

we've got to be thicker skin too every

time we just can't get uh up in arms and

lose sight of what we're trying to do

right enjoy our collection maybe help

other people acquire stuff for their

collection and that sort of thing and

the people we meet along the way right

hobbies to people I don't always say

that even though it's my tagline but

it's true and that's the thing you know

when it comes to labeling remember we're

all people right we're all human beings

right that's the really the one label uh

we all share unless you're from another

planet uh which I was accused of uh one

time so but under normal circumstances

right we're all uh human beings and

treat each other as best we can and you

know help each other out right Advocate

and investor that's that's the label I

wanna you know if I get labeled anything

I don't care about purist or true

collector uh the label two labels I

really want to have at the end of the

day uh that I won't complain about or

won't mind is the two a ones right and

not not as a third a one I'm talking

about but Advocate and investment right

I want people to know that I care about

the hobby I'm trying to promote the

having I'm trying to help fellow

hobbyists out by being an ambassador and

an advocate and maybe teaching a little

bit and definitely learning I learned

something about the hobby every day what

I'm trying to or I'm not trying to

naturally occurs because the hobby

changes uh so much so uh with that being

said well we're gonna wrap it up but be

nice to everybody I think you know I

want to close with sort of you know kind

of the the lesson of the day if you will

you know be nice to everybody try to

help people out try to treat people

fairly try not to judge people I know

we're all guilty of it at some point or

another but try to do your darndest uh

to just Embrace everyone in the hobby we

all share all right thank you for

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