Ep.314 w/Sal Barry of Puck Junk Part II

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Nation what is up everyone welcome to Episode 34 of sports card Nation Podcast hope

everyone is doing well out there in the hobby verse uh Our Guest is returning as

our usual part two uh that guest sberry of pug trunk a writer uh a collector a

dealer uh like myself he wears many hats in the Hobby and uh you know I think he

does a great job in in all of those I hope uh I hope I do even

75% of the job he does cuz he's really good uh at what he does we're going to

talk more hobby more hockey and uh you know just uh everything in general so uh

glad to finally have them on last week and today is the conclusion of our

conversation and uh we're going to take a quick 30- second break and then we'll

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all right guys happy to present you part two of our great conversation with Puck

junks sberry uh I know you attend the Expo uh in in Canada uh you know I've been to

the one in Toronto uh and kind of went it was a few years back it wasn't a

recent one probably three years ago four years ago kind of went in open-minded

and it was a great three or four days that I was there I kind of roomed with uh Eric Norton who was in at Becket at

that time and uh he invited me like hey because Syracuse is really not that far

from Toronto he kind of called me and said hey man I got I got two beds in my room if you want to make this trip and I

did uh so thanks to Eric and it was a great time time I I bought some cards uh saw some people that maybe you don't

always see being that's in uh you know north of the border and uh obviously it

was Heavy hockey as you well know but there were other sports there too uh I mean primarily hockey and they do a

great job with like interview guests and and signers and I I kind of coined it I

don't even think I was it was kind of like the the Canadian national and I don't and I don't mean that you know in

a in a d but it was a it it's a huge event it's a huge show and there's

probably people who maybe can't get to the state so that's there you know that's their Super Bowl show I gotta get

back I almost went this year to just schedule-wise wouldn't cooperate so uh I

plan on going again just kind of speak to that show I mean it's not fair to compare it to the National but it's a

it's a great show in its own right and as someone who's obviously done both kind of your

on on the you know the expo well it is a smaller show than the national I'll say that but um it's more concentrated with

hockey so I mean if you like hockey I mean you're going to find a lot of hockey at the national just going to be

like 10% if that right you go to the Expo it's going to be 80 to 90% you know

you'll find a dealer with non sports you'll find dealers from the states who bring their non hockey cards you know

they bring their their baseball and their basketball and their football because people in Canada want to collect

those also right um but um so it it's more concentrated if you're a hockey fan

it's definitely worth the trip because every table or almost every table is

going to have something that's going to want to make you stop and look like when I would buy at the national there'd be

just so much stuff that I'd skip okay here's a guy with four tables of autograph baseballs guess what I could

just Fast Track right past those tables I don't buy baseball I don't buy autograph

but at this show it's like oh that guy has hockey oh that guy has hockey has hockey that guy has team issued sets oh

that guy has uh dollar boxes oh that guy has uh cards from this year so I could finish my sets that guy has vintage

right so it's definitely a show that you're going to want to try to spend three or four days at it's a 4- day show

if you like getting autographs from hockey players I mean the most recent Expo that I went to I want to say there

were 35 hockey people signing autographs which a good naal might have five or six

last year's National had exactly one hockey signer which was Dominic hashek couple years before that when it was in

Chicago um there were like maybe four or five hockey guys so here this was like

35 hockey guys and then you know some actors some baseball players I think one

or two football players so it's a mix but it definitely skews heavy and hockey so I would say if that's what you

collect make the trip because you will find a lot of stuff that you like and also the with the exchange rate it

definitely helps being an American and changing your American money to Canadian money and just gives you you get more

bang for your buck so to speak all right a little bit of a hot seat question not not too bad obviously both shows are

great um like you said the national is is obviously bigger um as someone as a

hockey dealer and strictly from the business side of it if you will I'm not

not comparing the shows to like as many people as you meet or events after the show but strictly as a dealer do you

look forward to the Expo more because you for what your inventory is you're GNA have more percentage wise you know a

better chance you know you have a bigger audience on percentage wise or not necessarily you mean selling at the Expo

yeah yeah comparative to the National well I would not sell at the Expo and I

haven't and I'm I have no plan doing so because being in the United States you

got to bring your stuff over the Border you gotta you know and then there's taxes and stuff like that as far as like

when you bring merchandise in if I understand this correctly when you bring merchandise in you have to kind of prepay what they would tax you on your

sales and then when you come back with the merchandise then you say I sold this and I didn't sell this and then they

refund you the difference so there's just a lot of like just from like upfront Logistics and upfront costs and

stuff like that right so um I wouldn't really do that to sell also I kind of

like being a big fish in a small pond right like if I go and I sell hockey cards guess what has hockey in Canada

and they have some they have an advantage because you know they drove there you know so they're not spending a

lot of money on airfare and stuff like that or if I drove there it would just be like forever right I mean in

expensive with gas and everything um I like being a hockey dealer at the national and I'm okay with not being for

everybody because you know what the 10% of people who like hockey or maybe 20%

if you count casual buyers that's okay you know what like I'm not for everybody just like the people with high-end graded cards guess what they they make a

lot of money but they're also not for everybody so it's just it's like just that's the great thing about this hobby

is that there's enough different ways to sell and there's enough different ways to collect like I know one guy I would

never want to do this but he make he must make Bank edit because he's I see him at every Chicago show he has like

maybe four six booths all he sells are quarter cards tons and tons and he has

them under his table and he has boxes stacked on top of each other and there's always just people around his table it's

like a Feeding Frenzy and they're going through and they'll be like oh you like football I got some football and they'll just hand you a box you know I've gone

to his table and spent like 80 or100 doll on just quarter cards you know so

obviously he's doing something right but if you look at it some people be like cards you know so um yeah I mean so that

that's kind of my perspective i' I'd rather be a hockey seller in the US than

a hockey seller in Canada where it' be crowed yeah great point I I didn't think

I didn't even think of that I I apologize I didn't realize you you went but didn't set up so gonna ask you from

a dealer just went to buy for my own collection and you know to buy for my own collection mainly if I find

something that I I think I could sell in Chicago yeah of course I'm open to that I mean we're all open to that we all do

that s but uh yeah definitely went there to to buy some yeah you you you mentioned uh you know like buying like

what do you PC s like what does it make your showcases at a show like for me I

I'll answer kind of like my own question like for me as a as a fellow dealer I

you know collect graded Hall of Fame rookies of all sports baseball football

you know hockey B and basketball basketball probably be number fourth on that list but um I still have I still

have that and you know will you see that in my showcases if you see a a a rookie

card uh in those Sports of a Hall of Famer it's it's one I have duplicates up

like the first one stays home so for for you what what doesn't what won't someone

who's looking at your your your setup what won't they see or what do you keep

and know not for well I like complete sets especially vintage sets so like

I'll give you like a for instance I bought at the most recent Toronto Expo a complete

19771 op hockey that I'm I'm hanging on to that that's not going to be for sale

now if I end up with another set and you know then then I have two then yeah I'll sell one and keep one but like so to me

complete sets like I have pretty much every OPG set from

7273 that I got that 7071 I don't have 71 72 I have

7273 all the way up to 9394 tops I have every top set from 1968 69 to 94 95 then

after that it's like well there's so many other companies that doesn't matter as much right so like I like vintage

hockey sets um you know I oh and I also have a complete 5960 Parkers hockey set

which that took me a little while to piece together um and and so that's the thing like that those are my Keepers

right same with like rookie cards like I mean I got a Gretzky rookie I got a couple of Gretzky rookies and yeah if I

upgrade then yeah I would sell one um you know like I most recently I'll just show you since you mentioned Hall of

Famers I picked up a uh Stan Makita graded rookie card I don't have this

card right and he's like the all-time leading score for the Blackhawks and I'm like I should really have one of those

cards now I was looking for this card because I was trying to piece together the complete 6162 no

6061 um tops hockey set right so I I was looking for this card anyway um and then

just the fact that it was graded okay that's fine it it was affordable to me so I I bought it um but yeah so that's

the kind of stuff that you know I'm GNA hang on to that for a while unless I get one in shape then that one might end up

in the case and I think that's how it is with most dealers who are also collectors it's just like when you say

do I need to have three of this card or two of this card or 15 of this card yeah

you know not so much now but you know I did my first show sell at 15 years old

in 197 wow and then I had my first store at at age 25 years later and one of the

you know I get asked even when I'm like on on another podcast if the host knows kind of my background you know I get

asked do you know do you have trouble like I want to keep this or I want to sell it like that tuger war war that you

sometimes uh play it was bad for me in my my younger version you know now I'm

I'm better at like no that's going in the show inventory or that's not going but in my earlier days you know show

days store days I had more of that tug of warar like oh I kind of like this card I'm kind of hold on to it not put

it in the Showcase um and a lot of those times you know looking back kind sight

being you're like man I should have I should have sold that uh when when I had the chance so that that's a that's a

thing that used to be an issue for me not as much uh now so that that that

nice that it's not but it it you know I had a partner in my store and he'd be like what's that stack of cards in the

back and I'm like those are those are like PC goes well bring them home like why you even have them here you know and

and like it was just you know I'm like I'm tempting myself put it out or or

leave it back there you know so he's like well just if you're not going to sell him take him home and you know that

way nothing can happen to him or or whatever and I've gotten better at better at

uh Through The Years you mentioned vintage I love I love vintage really all sports uh but uh really you know

especially baseball uh as a dealer and I'll ask you this on the hockey side it's getting harder to kind of restock

and buy it you know it's easy to sell I want to say easy to sell but it's easier to sell than to necessarily uh buy uh

and there's more you know on on baseball and football and and there's a lot of people starting to get into the Vintage

uh you know I do carry hockey not a ton I'm sure you have way more than I do do

you do you find it harder to kind of restock vintage hockey or or not

necessarily oh yeah absolutely because everybody who is buying hockey not

everybody but a lot of people who are buying hockey they're buying the new stuff I mean look at like what's getting what are the breakers breaking right

they're breaking excuse me take a sip of coffee here yeah go ahead go ahead yeah

no just s sound like I swallowed a frog but um yeah so uh the breakers are

breaking new stuff so there is just a delus of new stuff out there right you

know there's no shortage of Connor Bedard cards when I was at the Expo it was easy to find Conor Bard it was

harder to find Stan Makita or Bobby Hall right just to stick with Blackhawks as my example right so anything that's new

there's tons of it out there so that's easy right with the older stuff it's either got to be somebody um decides you

know what I'm gonna part with these older cards or somebody died and then their Widow says you know what I'm going

to take all these cards and just sell them to this card store and then now they're going to you know put them out

on the market right so yeah it's it's tougher I'd say I think with like the newer cards a lot of people see them as

something to buy and sell and make money off of and with the older cards it's like stuff that people want stuff they

like so they kind of hang on to them yeah that's a great point you made there the last line right I think more you're

seeing less vintage gets flipped where like you said the the modern the Ultra Modern uh is more like hey I'll buy it

on Monday and sell it on Friday and buy some stuff and then the process kind of gets repeated uh as a dealer what like

what percentage is of your inventory uh is vintage too to Modern again it's hard

to like it's not an exact science if you had to guess what would would you say percentage vintage to to Modern so if

we're talking like pre-1990 I'd say like maybe 20% and it might be less than that because I sold a

lot of it at the last National um again because it it doesn't restock as easy

and then also because I'm buying new cards right so like I'm always going to buy new cards right because I'm a collector right so I you know I like

buying the cards I like opening the packs even if I don't build the set you know I'll try a box if I like it I'll

get more if I don't that's okay it's in my budget I'll buy it so then I end up with cards that I don't necessarily want

right so it's easier to buy you know 2324 product than 8687 product I mean

it's ridiculous that like unopened boxes like I saw like an unopened box of 8889

tops hockey and I was just like oh that would be so much fun to open because that was the first year I collected

hockey cards and I'm just fond of everything from the rapper to the Wayne Gretzky card where he's holding up the

king's Jersey and so I'm like okay 800 bucks 800 bucks for a box of

8889 Topps hockey cards now if you complete the set maybe a $100 set maybe

an $80 set right so you gotta really I mean there's no point in buying and

opening old stuff and there's enough of it out there right but I mean at 800 bucks you're not gonna if if you bought

a box of that and you opened it just to have fun right because money is nothing

to you right so 800 bucks whatever yeah like people who buy a bottle of wine for $800 at a restaurant right it's nothing

for them right so I guess if you bought a box of hockey cards for $800 knowing full well that if you open up all the

packs you're not going to make back $800 and you're okay with that have at it right but that's that's not what I can

right so it's easier just to buy $800 worth of new stuff get lots of new stuff

and potentially something that people would want a little bit more because I hate to say it but if I get a young gun

of mlin celebrini or even if I buy last year's uh series to and I get a Connor

Bedard Young Gun probably gonna have an easier time selling that than a complete

8889 tops hockey set which is unfortunate but that's just how it is yeah it's the you know what have you

done for me lately type of uh you know Mantra that uh many people in in the

hobby go do and I I agree and listen I've you know I used to open a lot more

wax out than than I do now like you said I don't mean this is I'm just being real

like you were like right generally it's a losing proposition sure there's exceptions to that rule but like you

said you got to kind of go in there expecting that and if you're comfortable you know with that expectation uh you'll

be all right but uh you know that's the gambling aspect of the hobby is buying a box and open there's no guarantee you're

going to get get what you paid for it out you know what what's in the box is going to match what it cost and that's

the risk you take and and then sometimes it does happen you hit something huge and it it you get that adrenaline rush

but it like you said to me um I agree with you it's you're better off buying the card you want to kind of whether it

be for PC or for show inventory um but like you said uh I was curious to see

how it was on on the hockey side but vintage is getting a little trickier to kind of the restock um at least for me

too and I'm always I'm always asking like you know people I know that are at my table hey you know I even I'm at the

point where I'm like listen I don't need it in grade worthy condition I just need

inventory so if you got a A bunch of D duplicates or you know you were starting

a set and you decided I'm not going to do it and you got some stars and semi stars um and I've gotten some deals like

that but it it's getting harder and harder uh to to do those like you said a

lot of people you're that that competition pool there's a lot of people in there swimming with you're trying to

buy that stuff too and it's not recirculating like you like you brought out people are buying that and then

keeping it and so it's it's getting trickier but uh you know but that's why it's it's it's fun and that's why it's

in demand and and when you do buy a nice lot it's it's usually productive you are

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back I got to ask you a couple dealer questions you know I'm a pricer like all

my stuff is is is priced I've kind of been like that uh for day one when I'm a

consumer at a show and I'm just walking around believe it or not I'm fairly shy guy I don't like to ask like hey how

much is this I'm not saying I don't I I have it's not Uncharted Territory but I'm more apt to not and maybe just go to

a table and try to find one with a a price on it what's your philosophy as a

dealer are you a pricer or or no uh I price almost everything I there might be

a few things I don't price for whatever reason um not to keep people guessing although sometimes it people guessing

but no like I um I absolutely do price my cards I find it annoying when people

don't price their cards because then a lot of times I find it like when people don't price their cards like sometimes

they just want too much for them anyway right um but then it's like I have to it's like I have to play like a game

like remember memory when you flip over a card you flip over another card you go oh those don't match and then you put it right so you go how much is that card

and they go $20 they go oh okay how much is that card and they go $25 go oh okay right and you're like how

much is that c like $40 you're like you know and it just like you get tired of asking questions right like because look

everybody has a threshold like what they think it's what they would like to spend on like what they think it's worth or

what they'd like to spend on it right so um I I'm just not I'm just not interested in playing gu games at

other's table and at the same time I don't want people to have to feel like they have to do that at my table like

people have come up to me they haven't bought it they might not buy anything but they'd say I appreciate that you price your stuff or they'd say your

tables are so nice to look at I do card shows and I do toy shows us to be a big toy collector now I'm parting out my toy

collection right so people will come and they'll just say you have a really nice setup and I'll be like thanks I hope it pays off right in more ways than what

right because it's one thing to say you have a nice table but if they don't buy anything so what right like um but yeah

I definitely price my cards because I want people you know look at the stuff

and just you know kind of know if it's something they want to buy or not and I feel like like you said some people are

kind of shy to ask kids are sometimes shy to ask or afraid to ask um you know

and then also it kind of gives a starting point right because like we still got those people with their phones right like I saw this guy he was I call

it doing long division right he was standing at my table he was doing long division on his phone I know what he was doing he was he was cing a Carill Capri

off card that I had and you know he's just like well it's competent for this and I go yeah that's okay I I I said

very politely I said' look it's numbered out of 299 I'll wait he's having a great season he's second in scoring in the NHL

right now um you know and also I I have money tied you know you you put some money into buying some of these cards

right so it was just like I was polite I just said oh that that's all right I can't really go that low right but if

anything it gives them a starting point in their head right and so I I think that's nice I think that's the thing

like with any negotiation it's like somebody's got to throw out a number first and I think if you're a dealer

you're saying I'm willing to sell this product for this much right you've made the decision that you're going to sell

it you're not going to keep it in your PC you're going to sell it and that you're comfortable asking for this

amount right and I think that like when you don't then it just becomes a guessing game right or it just becomes

like a like a a blinking contest and I don't think that's really fair to the consumer either right like if they have

to ask what the price is on everything that that kind of wastes their time and then they also might feel like they're

hassling which you know well then the dealer kind of set himself up for that right also one more other thing I know

I'm getting long winded here I'll get off the Soap Box no you're good you're good I think it's also lazy on the dealers part how many times have you

seen where they have boxes of cards and you kind of you go in you reach in you grab a card start and you go the cards

and they go they're all different prices and you're just like yeah it is I I tell

you you sound like me almost across the board uh s it's sort of lazy I get comps

change I get how comps are a big thing but at the end of the day like you said with the kiosoft example right it's your

card you can put whatever you want on it and you know just as well as I do right

as a pricer as a dealer who prices a c it's a starting point right very few occasions where someone it happens where

someone will come up and be like I'm taking that thank you usually it's like hey what's the best you can do you get

that you do it uh any better on then so that price is a starting point anyway

and if I didn't price my stuff right and you come up to my table say hey how much is that card and I say 25 bucks now to

be fair I need to remember that because the next guy that and let's say you don't buy it and the next guy comes

along and he says hey how much is that card it's the same card what if I said 20 you know what I mean I forgot and

what if you know somebody shows are kind of on the small side he like hey you know I got that for 20 bucks and like he

told me 25 and you can you can really rub somebody the wrong way where if it's

priced it's it's it's stickered for everybody to know what it is and it's whoever wants it bad enough or or first

and I think you know I think when you don't price your stuff it just can lead to some issues like that hey he told me

that he told you this I don't you know he's inconsistent and and you know even if you mark him up a little higher

knowing like hey someone's going to banter with me or Hag on price which I do the same thing it's not a bad thing I

don't mean that in a derogatory way but like you said it's a starting point so

like you I I price I think it's it's easier uh so like you said you know some

people aren't going to ask so it keeps them as potential customers where if you

didn't price and they're not at not going to ask you've already eliminated them from a potential sale because

they're you could have the best PR price on it you know it could be a $100 card and you want 30 bucks but you don't

price it that person's not going to ask to ever know that so where if you priced it for 30 bucks someone's just going to

come along and say uh that one's mine I'm taking so I think it you know by not

pricing you sort of eliminate a percentage of that of people who are buying that are not just to ask you I

don't want to do that you know uh me personally I I don't want to eliminate so much right off the Jump Street so

I've always done it like you too there's there's a couple maybe kind of a card that's kind of fluctuating from whether

it be every couple weeks or from one month to the next and I maybe I'll leave that on pric where someone will say hey

I know that's a crazy car what did we get on and again you know and then you negotiate uh from there so you know we

kind of we think along the same lines which is kind of neat uh let's talk about the podcast you know you kind of

mentioned you know how would I kind of all came about um you know how long have

have you done it kind of what do you you know you interview people uh let you

know get uh let people know about about your show and what it entails all right

so my Puck junk is or my podcast is called the puck junk hockey podcast or the puck junk podcast uh I started it in

2015 I started my Puck junk blog in 2007 and then I added the podcast in 2015 and

then I added an online store in 2019 where I sell my original t-shirts uh

hockey themed t-shirts some are based on uh they look like old Topps hockey

rappers they're not they just look like them but they're my own designs I have some other ones that are video game

themed hockey video game themed so I started my store in 2019 and I started

my uh newsletter my weekly email newsletter in 2023 so I got all these different facets but um the podcast

started that in 2015 talk to people uh in the industry who like have to do with

hockey cards sometimes I've been lucky enough to talk to some former NHL players who talked about their career

with us um I thought it was funny when um we interviewed Craig Patrick who used

to be the general manager of the Pittsburgh Penguins he was uh the GM when they drafted yarma Yager fifth

overall in 1990 who was also the assistant coach on the 1980 US Olympic

hockey team that won the gold medal and I thought it was fun when my co-host asked him he says how do you feel about

being on the yir yger upper deck rookie card where he's shaking hands with them after he drafted him and he said I'm

kind of embarrassed that I take up that much of his rookie card which I thought was just such a funny answer right so

you know we talk about new sets we talk about vintage sets um we Shy Away about

talking about prices too much because there's other podcasts do that sort of thing and yeah it just gets exhausting

to be like this card sold for $10,000 and it's a PSA 9 and it's just

like okay great you know that's you know what that's that's the bling right that's the gold chain but that's that's

there's no substance um we did though I will say this when uh Upper Deck Series

2 came out and the Connor Bedard Young Gun started hitting eBay like right away

we did a podcast about that card and just how the card like the first one that sold on eBay was $1,200 ridiculous

right it just we talked about just that whole day like how the card started at 1,200 and then it kind of went down to

700 but then there were the different variations and inserts and stuff so we do get caught up in that from time to

time because it's hard not to yeah and that's that's not wrong with that so I I'll stick up for you too then that's

that's important stuff that's you know you know especially in a player who's kind of at least you know even before

he's done anything yet sort of changing the landscape of of the Market I I don't think there's anything wrong with that

like you we don't even on this show I don't talk a lot of bit a lot about pricing but it'll come up uh sometimes

but my philosophy is this that stuff is all out there can find out I'm not breaking like Hey this not like any kind

of Insider information that's public domain stuff so I like you I don't I

don't delve in that too too often and like you said there's plenty of other content that's already uh knocked that

out of the PO know covered it uh um and uh I'm more you know personal stories uh

and the people in The Hobby and that sort of thing and what they're doing rather than the up and down you know uh

pricing I mean it does uh does come up occasionally but it's just not my focus much like uh you men so but but go ahead

I just kind of wanted to interject no no it's quite all right I mean your show interject

away but I I you know the thing is is that like a card being highly desirable

ride out of the gate kind of like Alexa La franer in 2021 right like you have to talk about these things well you don't

have to but you should because they they drive the market forward but you're right like it's I sometimes it was

interesting that like sometimes we would recap like here are the five biggest eBay sales from the last week but then

it was just kind of like okay a Sydney Crosby rookie card with an autograph sold for this much and a Conor McDavid

rookie card with an autograph and a patch sold for this much right so it just it kind of just became more of like a laundry list or grocery list than like

actually talking like about like why that's important and I think that's that's the thing like when we talked

about Bard and like why that was important um so uh yeah so that's kind

of like what we cover though like we we do interviews with people who work in the industry we interview hockey players

we you know sometimes have other guests on um and uh yeah and we talk about new

sets we talk about old sets right because uh we're all myself Clemente and Tim we're all collectors so you know we

like to talk about like the stuff that gives us joy in collecting yeah you know much like uh the tagline of the show

right the Hobbies the people like I get the cards are the the Common Thread but right it's us who who make up that hobby

uh without us that there is no hobby so uh I love those stories and the personal

aspects of those so uh I like that more like we like we just said I like that

more than even the the talking about what a card or set or or sealed wax went

for although we do you know like you said we do have to cover that at certain times because it is it is important just

the just the same so I I'll I'll one more question and I'll let you kind of give out all your credentials social

website uh where people can grab the shirts listen to the podcast um I'm a guy that likes to find under the radar

players and in really any sport uh you're the hockey guy so I'm going to you know an underrated player in in the

game right now that doesn't get enough hobby love but should that's a tough

question um because there's a lot of players that should get hobby love that don't um that are underrated like okay

this guy's obviously going to be in the Hall of Fame so saying that he's under the radar is ridiculous but like if Genny malcin on the Penguins right he's

been in the league just one year less than Sydney Crosby everybody wants Crosby cards yeah people want highend

Malin cards but it's just funny how like nobody really he's not like a collected player like the same at the same level

as Crosby or even oetkin right so I feel like that's a player who's like severely underrated and I just thought of this

the other day as was going through cards and like he's going my three four doll boxes oh these going in my like Star box

for like a dollar right oh okay Crosby goes in the dollar bucks right malcin three for a dollar it's just funny how

that that works out right like um as far as like new rookies I can't really think of anybody off the top of my head who's

like under the radar um I think that like a lot of people were expecting mcklin celebrini to maybe be the odds on

favorite to win rookie of the year he was the first overall pick to San Jose Sharks however he had an injury so he's

not like at the top in the rookie scoring um the guys though that are at

the top of rookie scoring aren't really exactly household names so maybe these would be kind of under the radar even

though they have the stats to back it up uh matvey mitchoff of the um should say matvey mitchoff of the Philadelphia

Flyers currently leads rookies in scoring and in goals and in Logan

stankoven of the Dallas Stars leads rookies in assists and he's second in

points right so just off the top of my head when you said you know uh when you asked me earlier like yeah I think of

some players to talk about I was thinking yeah stankoven seems like he'd be the one to win uh The Calder Trophy

uh although uh meof has a few more points right now and a lot of times with forwards the league tends to kind of

lean towards okay which forward rookie had the most points they're the winner

of the Rookie of the Year with defenseman defenseman don't have to lead in points they just have to make like an

impact on their team and then of course with goalies I think this is so funny but like if you're a rookie goalie you

have to be like one of the best goalies in the league to be considered as Rookie of the Year you can't just be

a good goalie for a rookie you have to be like among the best that would be like saying last year if Connor Bedard

had as many points as Sydney Crosby and uh Conor McDavid that would be like an unfair criteria so I feel like goalies

are held to a much higher standard defenseman a higher standard and then forward it's like hey you showed up and

you're 18 and you scored 60 points in 80 games good for you you get Rookie of the

right it's it's definitely a lower CR it's the old it's the old chicks dig the long ball line right chick chicks dig uh

you know hit in the back of the net uh with the puck as as well so I get it you

know with defensemen the one thing I like about hockey too s is you know in

football defensive players they could be like game-changing players and their

cards aren't necessarily as desired as a quarterback or um but in hockey I think

there's more love to to the defensive side of the game uh you know with with

guys who are are you know Big Time Defenders I I I it's nice to see that

because you don't see that as much in other sports um I'm sure there's there's room for improvement even on the hockey

side but you know I think I think H hockey collectors are more appreciative

of defensive players than maybe football collectors are or at least willing to to

spend with their with their while it's in firstes to sort of make that known then we see well it depends again but it

also depends on the the type of defenseman so if it's an offensive defenseman like kale M yeah absolutely

or if it's like a big hitter like uh Jacob trouba right a captain of the Rangers right like he's he's a pop he's

a popular player because he's a physical player right so when you have like those physical players um they're popular or

when you have like guys who help in the offense like a kale card then yeah then

uh they're they're more collectible but then when you have like your stay-at-home defenseman not not as much

you're you're you're good defensive defenseman not super popular on for um

yeah you know I i' definitely say it probably goes you know um your Topline

centers you know like your your mcdavid's or even like your Topline forwards like your Alex oetkin or kill

Capri soft especially if they're playing on a Major Market team um they're G be

tops in the industry followed by go tenders yeah no doubt well this has been

this has been fun uh for me I have I love to have you back on but uh you know

before we uh Before We Say Goodbye give out where people can pick up some of that apparel your podcast website social

media uh no time limit get that information out there and steer people

uh that way to check out what absolutely so you can find everything at Puck junk.com you can uh find the Blog

podcast the newsletter the store all of those things are there but uh separately

you could find the podcast at Puck junk.com podcast the shop at Puck

junk.com shop and the newsletter at Puck junk.com newsletter and then likewise if

you want to follow me on social media I'm on X Puck junk um Instagram at Puck

junk got a YouTube channel uh got a Facebook collectors group

fb.com grroup Huck junk you can join that as well um yeah I'm pretty much out

there uh on on all the uh on all the socials and such so uh if you want to follow me there I'll follow you back and

uh yeah hope hope you uh check out some of the things that I got my podcast my newsletter and so forth yeah listen you

know you're you're approaching your 10th year of on the podcasting side of things

and and as you well know and I well know at at six years that's a long time in in

this space so uh hats off hats off to you there on on approaching your 10year

uh anniversary thank you very cool s Barry coming on the show uh that was

part two of our conversation part one was the last Friday if you want to catch

that one if you didn't uh already we appreciate uh all you out there for for

tuning in uh great having Salon very lot of lot of the same hats we wear wear

right collector dealer writer uh hockey fans uh but I mean his hockey knowledge

is is far superior uh to mine and uh leaned into that a little bit uh during

our conversation for for sure so uh we'll have S back on long as he'll come

back on uh got definitely can talk more current events and maybe more hockey uh

the sport uh as well next time so look forward to that uh down the line all

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