Ep.313 w/ Sal Barry of Puck Junk

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of punk Puck junk he's a podcaster uh has actually been doing it longer than

even I have and I'm a and I'm an OG as they like to tell me uh he's a writer

he's a collector he's a a hockey fan and he's really a vast knowledge uh you know

vast resource of of hockey knowledge and uh when it comes to hobby uh off the ice

on the ice and uh glad to have him on and uh you know I think you'll enjoy uh

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happy to talk to the my next guest on the sports card shop uh guest line we have some similar things he's a dealer

uh like myself collector uh podcaster uh so we check all the same boxes there and

uh we're going to talk about a sport I I I love but I don't think we talk enough

about on the show so glad to to chop that up uh with him uh today that would be hockey uh Mr sberry of Puck Juck p uh

Puck junk podcast that that's easier to read than to say hi glad to be here all

right so you know we kind of start off you know you're you're a podcaster yourself sou so I I kind of the first

time anyone's on we kind of it's the it's the kind of the standard you know Icebreaker podcast question uh if you

will kind of like how it all started uh for for you in and getting into the

hobby uh and all that fun stuff well I started my podcast in 2015 um prior to

that I used to be a weekly guest on an XM radio program called the War Room

which was a hockey talk and I was their hockey Collectibles expert and I would come on once a week talk hockey cards

hockey Collectibles hockey pop culture stuff like hockey movies anything hockey related like that and uh I was a guest

on that show like a recurring guest for about years and then it kind of tapered off around 2014 and I said you know what

I really like talking about cards and collectibles I like writing about it

that's kind of how I got my start into all of this as a writer but I also like talking about it I mean just a different

medium different way of expressing yourself so um I I texted a friend of

mine um it was late at night like midnight or something a friend that I had always liked meeting up with at card

shows Tim parish and I just randomly texted him like hey we should do a podcast and he's like right now I'm like

are you drinking he's like yeah I'm like no not now later like in the morning or

sometimes this week so we just started the podcast um after that kind of kind of as a um byproduct of me being a a

regular guest on a talk show and just kind of from there yeah and I i' I've

said on this show too that's kind of how this show got started so I was kind of a doing a Friday morning spot on a local

uh broadcast here Syracuse and then my work schedule changed I wasn't able to appear on that and I I'll make the story

a lot shorter than it is but doing that segment each Friday kind of was the the litmus test like hey I can do this you

know uh and and so I missed it when I wasn't on that program anymore probably

uh like you did and I said hey I can just you know I can do I can do it

myself with with the audio um and and that's how sports card Nation uh podcast

was was born and and here we are it's crazy to say uh six years uh uh later

and uh um you know had no idea how long it would be or or you know whether you

know people were going to like it but uh thankfully uh that's that's the case you

know I'm a I'm a Rangers Fan I'm a New York City kid I'm in Syracuse now um I

love hockey i i i as much of a baseball and football fan as I am you know if you

ever been to a live hockey game game it's I would say it's probably one of the the most exciting Sports to watch uh

in person you know on TV's fine too which I do but there's something about a

live hockey game where are you located and I I guess why hockey not that

there's anything wrong with hockey but you know it's not you know here in the statewise anyway it's not the most

popular sport um so you know that sort of thing where about you located and how

did it start with hockey so I'm in Chicago home of the Chicago Blackhawks and also

the Chicago Wolves of the AHL I know Syracuse has the Syracuse Crunch of the

AHL so also an AHL City that you're in um I'm lucky to have two hockey teams

here uh I got into hockey in the most random way uh we got cable TV couple

weeks before my 14th birthday and I was channel surfing and I stumbled Upon A Blackhawks game like the last two

minutes of a Blackhawks had really no idea what hockey was because this was in the late 80s the NHL did not have any

national broadcast on free TV at that time they were either on ESPN or prior

to that the USA Network so you had to have cable TV to watch hockey in America in the 80s now if you had a local team

they might broadcast on a local channel however the Blackhawks were also on

cable and only their Road games so the only way you could have gotten into hockey in the 80s would be to either

watch an Olympic hockey game every four years or to have cable television and like I said it wasn't until we had

enough um disposable income my family for us to afford cable TV and then I

found hockey and I'm like oh my God this is such a cool sport and then it turns out that both my mother and my aunt were

big hockey fans in the 70s up until about the time the Blackhawks stopped televising their games on free TV and

that's kind of why they stopped being hockey fan so it actually kind of ran in the family but just wasn't aware of it

until I discovered it in the late 80s and then you know my mom and my aunt were like oh yeah hockey we were fans of

that we used to go to the games in the 70s and then had you just started buying cards as as that where like it it went

from being a fan to a collecting like where did that bridge get like kind of

crossed well I had I had been buying cards for a while actually the thing is is like um it wasn't necessarily like P

but it was like you know the other boys at your school do something and kind of

want to do that too fortunately it wasn't like drugs or alcohol it was trading cards so you know I remember

when uh the Chicago Clubs in 84 uh made it to the playoffs and that was kind of

a big deal and so then I remember in early 85 um the boys in my school were

collecting baseball cards and I said oh those are kind of cool uh I mean I'd seen Cubs games on TV um because they

were broadcast on WGN they only did home excuse me they only did home games

during the day because they didn't have lights until 1988 a lot of times the Cubs would preempt the after school

cartoons that I would want to watch so a lot of times I would just watch the Cubs waiting for Transformers or GI Joe to

come on so when kids were collecting hockey card or excuse me baseball cards I got into that and then when they

started collecting uh football cards the next year because then he had the 85 Bears and they they won and and

everybody was buying football cards in ' 86 so then I kind of jumped into that then 87

8889 I was 87 88 I was just kind of buying some baseball some football um

and you know I would buy non-sport Cards and then 89 when I got into hockey in early ' 89 it was just like oh I gotta

find hockey cards because this is a sport that I like so I didn't really become a passionate Card Collector until

um until early '89 and that's when I jumped in hockey collecting with both feet and really got into it and was

really passionate about it at that point was it like 100% hockey or did you still

sort like predominantly hockey but still dabble in some of the other sports or or

not necessarily well the thing was was that with like hockey um there weren't a lot of sets so like yeah I remember

getting an 89 tops hockey set at a card store and then I had it and I didn't

really know what OPI was yet so I didn't know that there was like a Canadian version of of the same set with more

cards uh so I I still bought 89 tops base summer I bought a lot of 89 um Tops

baseball and then I bought um you know like non sports like I remember like the Batman trading cards came out and I was

all up in that and like the Ninja Turtles and Gremlins 2 and Ghostbusters 2 so I was kind of a sucker for

non-sport cards because you know I liked you know I liked own to the movies as a kid who didn't right and uh so I would I

would collect those um but yeah and then I want to say by like 1990 I don't think I bought any baseball cards I might have

bought a pack here or there just cuz but I didn't really um at that point I was

really just focused on hockey other than the random like oh these action-packed

football cards look pretty cool maybe I'll buy a pack or oh these Hoops basketball cards look pretty cool I'll

maybe I'll buy a pack because again there were not a lot of hockey sets until 9091 so once you had the top set

in the OPI that you were pretty much done collecting for the year yeah like

like me S you grew up um with the era where you know we had more than one

company you know making uh different sports you know um like you said around

91 you had the tops OPI and then pret uh got into the game obviously Upper Deck

um and other companies uh unlike now where Upper Deck is the exclusive uh you

know license see for the sport they do a I I think you'll agree they do a a

pretty terrific job with it but I do kind and not just for hockey but just in general S I kind of miss multiple

companies doing cards you know I thought it BR it bring it made it more competitive companies were trying to be

better than the other company making those cards and we've sort of to me I feel like we sort of lost that and and I

and like I just said upper deck's doing a a great job do you do you miss the

multiple companies doing hockey cards or are you more than fine with just you

know upper deck and and you know I almost now the way Fanatics is kind of like they're trying to take over

literally everything I almost hope they don't uh I I don't want them to have the full four major sports if if you know

what I mean so kind of your thoughts on on the current landscape of of cards in

comparison to when there was multiple uh you know produce yeah and it's interesting because 10 years ago we

still we had two companies making hockey cards so for those of you who are not um

all up into hockey so much the thing was is that there were multiple companies making hockey cards until the 0405

lockout then in 0506 um the nhlpa granted an exclusive

license for deck that was actually investigated internally by The nhlpa Who

said wait a minute why are we collecting money from one company when we were collecting money from five companies and

it turns out there's a little bit of a shady background dealing with the current head of the NHL players

Association at the time turns out he was ousted because of that and then um for

four years from like 2011 to 2014 there was a CO license with upper deck and

Panini making hockey cards and that lasted four years and then in 2014 the

NHL and the NHL PA said you know what we're just going with one company and it's upper neck and so personally I like

competition I like competition because you get some great new ideas and there

was even some Innovation going around going on around that time when you had

the two companies battling it out although honestly I feel like Panini failed every chance it got like it just

didn't like Upper Deck had an idea and Panini had an idea but Panini's idea was

like 80% as good as upper deck's idea I'll give you like One for instance when they brought out Don Russ they brought

back Don Russ hockey cards and they had the rated rookie and I said okay this is going to be the set that challenges

Upper Deck series one Upper Deck series two and it's iconic Young Guns right because you know you look at like the

Young Gun that's like the iconic Upper Deck rookie card for hockey and I thought that okay Don us cool you know

what and you know what they made the base set a little bigger it was 250 cards so you had a little more incentive

to buy more boxes whereas with like Upper Deck you'd buy two boxes you'd have your full base set and be like all right am I going to just buy more boxes

and end up with like five complete base sets just to get those last 50 Young Guns so with Don Russ it was a little

there was a little more reason to buy more boxes the thing was is that they made a Don Russ series one they didn't

make a Don Russ Series 2 and it was just like okay great so you don't have any of the guys who came out later in the

season in series 2 you don't have players and new uniforms you don't have rookies who made their debut they did

have a couple of rookies from like a rookie photo shoot but it was just not like I said it was

poorly executed Upper Deck had the cup which was their premium product and then

uh Panini responded with Dominion but I think they only did it for one year and

you know okay you need a little more than that just to gain traction so I felt like they tried but not as hard um

but I feel like at the same time Upper Deck tried a little harder because they had to they had to be more competitive you know you had things like national

hockey card day became a thing in the United States because Upper Deck said oh whoa okay we

got to do something to make us look like the brand of hockey cards and not just a

brand of hockey cards so yeah obviously competition breeds Innovation yeah no doubt time for a quick break but we'll

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returned going back to the doners and I I still you know it's funny so you mentioned the doners I still have some

unopened packs here of of Don Rous hockey I think they 96 um the ones they

have why why you know I'll speculate I'm assuming there wasn't a series two

because maybe sales of series one one weren't up to their expectations or or

was there other things at play do you know the reason that they didn't produce a following series to like you said to

catch some of those late call-ups and signings and things like that you know I don't know they just didn't they just

didn't for some reason I mean I know that like with score here's like another example like 10-11 score and they kind

of revised the design from 9091 score and so they're like oh okay we're pushing this Nostalgia thing our cards

from 2011 look or 2010 look like the cards from 1990 okay that's all great um

they promised you one rookie Redemption per box and then I bought five boxes and then I didn't get any rookie redemptions

and then I emailed their customer service and they said oh no we're actually just putting the rookies that

were going to be Redemption rookies actually just went into the boxes so that I double checked and I saw that one

card out of the five boxes was one of those so-called rookie redemptions that I just didn't notice at the time because

it looked like the other rookie cards and I said okay when were you going to tell us this like I bought five boxes

like I'm all in that that that and where's my other four right I just felt

very bait and switch right because I mean if you think about it there were there were supposed to be 10 update

rookies it ended up being nine but there were supposed to be 10 so I thought all right I'll buy five boxes cuz it's a massive set like 500 base cards maybe

100 short prints if I remember correctly you know I'm thinking back now FS right and um and I was disappointed I just

felt it was very bait and switch right like they kept changing their ideas and then like another thing that they did

that was cool was they did um an update set for 10-11 score box set all right

rookie and traded all right cool one in every 20 set had an exclusive card of a

fictional hockey player named Taro sujimoto you've heard of this card or you've heard of The L okay yeah so those

who don't know um the sabes in like the 1974 draft they got so bored they

trolled the NHL and they said you know what we're drafting H Taro sujimoto from the Tokyo katas and the NHL actually

like put that down as like okay that's their pick that appeared in like the Guiden record book that they drafted

this taros sujimoto and then later on like that fall they're just like oh yeah no we just made that guy up we we didn't

have anybody to draft and we trolling up right because this is back when NHL teams would actually phone in their

draft picks right you know they would call up and say so um score made a taros

suji moto card which was awesome and you're like yes okay like you really

have to be a hockey fan to get this or to want it but then what they did was they put it one in every one in every 20

box sets of score rookie and traded which I thought was just kind of like a big middle finger like yeah well maybe

the set will have this card and maybe it won't right and then of course that drove up the demand for a card that um

totally shouldn't have had any sort of demand yeah they so they had the right idea and then they they took the wrong

wrong approach and uh it's much like a baseball story with the the Mets fictional player of Sid

uh back in the day for those that remember that kind of planted story throw 104 miles hour and you know just

this incredible prodig and uh he obviously was was made up and and not

not not real but people believed it and uh you know ran with it and uh it's a

legend uh to to this day I don't know if you're familiar with that one that one's from the baseball uh the baseball side

but he didn't get drafted they just they made a press release as if they signed him like he slipped through the cracks

and we found this guy and we signed him that sort so it's reminiscent uh of that

um do you know Fanatics like I mentioned s is really trying to get their hands in

every till I mean do you like the the status quo where we have upper deck uh

pretty much exclusively making hockey cards or would you be open you know well

at this point you know if for got the license that would mean Upper Deck would probably be out do you you like where it

is now or is that something you'd like to see at at some point no I have a

mixed opinion if uh okay so hockey cards are kind of like the only child for uper

right and Fanatics already has three kids four if you count soccer five if you count Star Wars which probably is

like probably the biggest kid I mean well I don't know I mean baseball is huge but so Star Wars right and Disney

right so um fanatics already has a lot of life I mean what are they going to do for hockey like that Upper Deck wouldn't

do better I don't know right kind of a rhetorical question but it's like Upper Deck they lost a Marvel license they got

the DC license okay then they have like like I don't know like women's volleyball or something I mean they just

have like they're trying to like expand into like a lot of like other sports that Fanatics isn't looking into but

it's like if Upper Deck keeps hockey they're going to keep doing the job that they're doing and I think doing a pretty

good job on the other hand if Topps and Fanatics got hockey then we could start

seeing some of these old iconic designs again used on hockey cards I think it's funny that like they'll use a hockey

design on a throwback Thursday baseball card this being tops or like even like

they use like the 7980 tops design on some Star Wars cards for to like throwback Thursday set and I kind of

fell for it I said oh those look like the Gretzky rookie year okay sure I'll buy a Mandalorian card and a baby Yoda

card and whatever else you know Obi-Wan Kenobi whoever right um I think there would definitely be a lot of um great

Nostalgia and a lot of just great stuff if Topps got the license because then we

could start seeing some of his old designs again I mean imagine if they made a set of retired players using like

a classic design or if they did like an alltime great but they used like the 91

top Stadium Club hockey design right I mean that would be so cool right but then the same time we would lose a lot

of the stuff that upper deck's been doing and upper deck's had the hockey license for over 30 years now so I mean

there is something cool about that continuity of like you know 34 years of

Upper Deck Hockey Cards right I don't have all the sets from the past 34 years most of them uh especially anything

without but yeah I I don't know like I said mixed emotions good good on both uh

good good on both fronts I'll uh I'll play the M I'll go I'll shoot right in the middle of that and I this is more

pipe dreaming style than than reality I like to see I don't want like you said I don't want upper to to lose that license

because I I think they've done overall pretty decent job and great designs but I also like to see for the reasons you

just said right some of those finest hockey again and some of those you know Chrome hockey they could do it ever went

if they ever got a licensing so I'd like to see both of those companies produce hockey cards I don't think uh at least

right now in the current landscape and terrain I think those days are probably in the rearview mirror but I'd love to

see both of those companies you know do it rather than Upper Deck lose their license and then it go to Fanatics way

so so that's kind of I I know that's sort of the the easy copout answer

probably not not realistic but I'd love to see that if if anything changes

that's the way I'd like it to change but like you said I think if it's if it's one or the other you know I don't think

upper decks done a bad enough job let's say to lose the licensing in in other ways where companies have had problems

before like me so um you know that's kind of where I fall on that subject we

uh let's talk a little bit about uh the the players too um you know you got a a

superstar in the making right in your backyard and and Conor Bard you know you

got uh Conor mcdave probably one of the best players uh in the game and and in Edmonton almost won his first cup uh

last year um I don't know what it is with the with guys named Connor but uh

uh two two great guys you got a vkin who I know's hurt right now approaching you

know a points record um that would probably I don't I don't know about you I didn't ever think that would even be

even approachable and yet here we are uh talking about it um you know I I think

hockey's you know in a strong position I think it's gained uh some you know I'll

I'll let you speak to that as as a seller I think it's gained some some uh popular you know card wise too hobby

wise here in the states obviously in Canada and overseas it's pretty strong to to begin with um I mean kind of your

thoughts on on where you know the state of the game on the ice and off the ice

well um hockey cards I mean it's funny because there's always going to be people who buy them there's always going

to be the fans last season it really got a shot in the arm with Connor Bard so

you know it seems like every you know every time there's a generational Talent

going from 1990 forward anyway uh that really kind of adds some fuel to hockey

cards fire right like with like 1990 and Eric lindross right everybody wanted his score rookie card that a future

Superstar he hadn't even been drafted yet he's fact that not to cut Dr so they even put I and I you know I lived the

Lindros uh the The Craze they put him in a a baseball traded set he was taking as

you probably well know taking batting practice with the blue jay they made a baseball card out of Eric lindos and put

it into the the score traded set of baseball I'm not even talking to hockey with so yeah they hyped him every way

they could I mean in baseball put him in all the traded sets even if he wasn't like even in the

92 traded I think he had a a card in that set he had his own box set in 9293

called road to the NHL so you know he was like super hyped and then you didn't really see this again until Crosby in'

05 right and then you saw it again with McDavid in 2015 but I think the

difference with Connor Bard is that this is you know social media is a lot

stronger now than it was 10 years ago it always gets stronger and good ways and bad ways but it's it's more predominant

prevalent and then um the other thing is that it's post pandemic right and so

that's when a lot of other people really started seeing cards as Investments I mean I think all card collectors did oh

you know we bought this card for a dollar we sold it for 10 yay or oh I bought this card for 50 bucks and now

it's $500 yeah you know what I mean like and that's fine but this is where it really kind of exploded where you had

people coming in from the outside you know and then you talk about like those sneaker heads right like the people who

buy the Air Jordan shoes on day of release wait a week and sell them for five times what they paid for them right

that kind of shortterm flipper culture right and so I mean you saw it at the

you were at the 2021 National right were you set up there or okay so yeah yeah

yeah okay yeah so you saw what it was like I mean that was the first national that I sold people were buying Connor

McDavid cards from me and they didn't even know hockey they just wanted Conor that they just knew that he was a great

player so they're just like oh my God this guy's a great player I need his cards and everything that I had of his

pretty much sold that that over the course of five days um with Conor Bedard

going to a major team like the Blackhawks major meaning like an original six third largest city in the

United States therefore third largest city in North America right so Major Market original six team that's you know

about 10 years removed from its last championship but there was a lot of hype for him last summer even though there

weren't really many cards out there so anything with them in Team Canada was selling right and then in the fall even

though there was no Young Gun his top now stickers were selling and his team Canada stuff last fall I mean um this

year it's definitely cooled off but um yeah last year was such a huge year for

hockey and now it's kind of like a little bit of a down right where it's just like you know the people who

collect still collect but now I'm not really competing with the people who are trying to get his cards like I don't

think Macklin celebrini being on the Sharks and then also getting injured after like his first game um is going to

really drive that demand for upper deck series one or series two I should say

because he's going to be in series two the same way it drove the demand for upper deck Series 2 last year yeah and

so now I I you know the the sort of paraphrase what you you got more the purist right the the true collectors who

are going to just be hockey collectors regardless of of how strong the rookie class is is or or

isn't but it's also nice I mean as a dealer and as a seller I mean I'm sure it's nice too um when you have that uh

kind of transcendent at least you know predicted Transcendent player like a a

Bard or McDavid you know speaking of my team lafr year was playing a little bit

better but he hasn't lived up to you know the number one pick billing uh yet but I think he's moving in in the right

direction but it's always nice when there's a rookie class or or a rookie uh

even one person in the case of like Bard and McDavid deck can sort of bring attention to the sport you know some of

those people like you mentioned s you know who came in uh maybe hey I want to I want a McDavid card I want a Bedard

card you know maybe not all of them but hopefully some of them are stuck around too for the Long Haul like hey I I like

collecting hockey cards so hopefully that's you know sort of a benefit of sort of that buzz and craze and and and

hype and uh that they stick around and not get out you know um when when the

getting out is good so and I know that happens and that happens in in other sports um uh as well so you know you you

mentioned uh the national and setting up there I I've never I've been to I think

five or six now I'm starting to uh count I've never set up I might I'll I'll do a

couple stage uh you know shows and then I I'll walk around and and obviously uh

buy some cards talk to folks and it's a great week as you well know um you know

it's under new leadership uh uh starting with last year's uh you know in in

Cleveland uh you know are you are you you know someone who sets up there and obviously attends the national are you

you know do you like where the direction the new leadership is going I know it's early yet and it may you know might be

too early to fully judge but do you like what you saw starting with last year

honestly I didn't really see much of a difference I mean I think the the differences that I saw were the differences in the venues between Donald

D Stevens Convention Center in Rosemont which is a suburb of Chicago versus um

where it was at in Cleveland last year or even the the convention center in Atlantic City uh two years back so I

didn't really see much of a difference but then again maybe the difference was

more uh intend for the customers the people who are there to shop and buy Cards and get

autographs and so I wasn't really doing that so I I didn't really get a chance to experience those differences I think

just from a dealer standpoint it it seemed more or less the same just in a

smaller venue you know it was it was funny I'm getting off topic here but it was funny just how hard it was to get to

and from the convention center I had friends drove in I drive in and they talked about how it took them what

should have been a 15-minute Drive took them an hour like you know I I and you know Clemente Lei of course yeah and

Clemente was talking about how he was trying to get the shuttle back to his hotel and it was like he waited for like

over an hour and then finally he just he took the first shuttle they're like are you at this hotel he's like yes I am and

he just got on just to get the heck out of the uh take me anywhere but I gotta

get out ofwhere away from the Expo Center right and then it was funny because then he's like and then after

that he's like I was just able to walk over to my hotel or get like a you know a $5 Uber ride from one hotel to another

versus coming into the convention center which was just mess um so yeah as far as

like the changes I haven't really seen it yet I know next year they're expanding it um they're going to add

another room of dealers upstairs at the Donald E Stevens Convention Center I

don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing I mean it's good to let in more people I think it's a bad thing to

say like oh and there's more dealers upstairs because I feel like at any show whenever you put more dealers in another

room those dealers are always overlooked you know what I mean oh be sure to also yeah everyone's in the gymnasium but

then we've also set up some tables in the bathroom please be sure to visit the bathroom the dealers in there too uh on

your way uh you know out of your stall and you know wash your hands first and then you know be sure to check out what

they have for sale I I always kind of found it to be yeah I I kind of agree I

I think it's just that unsatiable demand there's people want to set up and they're trying to not turn I mean people

are going to get turned away and not get a table and they're trying to like make that number as small as they can but I

also like you said I think you've got to be respectful to uh the the existing dealers who've supported the show from

you know uh in recent Years or or even longer and you go it like you said you gota you know keep the the new dealers

in mind like is this going to be a you know positive situation uh for them too

or are they going to be like you kind of mentioned maybe uh an afterthought so hopefully that you know hopefully that

doesn't muddy up the waters and and ruin what I a show I love and try to attend

you know uh every year well I hope you enjoyed that conversation as much as I

had having it with sberry and if that's the case good news part two next Friday

so this was part one part two next Friday and we're going to talk some more

hockey talk some more Hobby and that's the thing with with s he knows a lot of hockey but he knows a lot of hobby too

and uh really we didn't even get to everything that I wanted to so we'll

we'll also have him back but he'll be back next week so uh don't miss that

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