Ep.226 w/Rob Girard/Sports Card Therapist "Busiest dude in the Hobby"

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Welcome to episode

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Happy to be back

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If you listen to this

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Happy Friday

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And if you listen to this

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Everything has went well

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My drive has went well

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I am in Springfield

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Massachusetts today

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Walking around the basketball Hall of Fame

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this evening with Ken Collins from SportsCards. Lessons as we get ready for Saturdays, Springfield

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Massachusetts show and hobby panel discussion at the basketball Hall of Fame, very, very

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excited for this event. I'll be setting up at the show. I haven't done any out of state

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show in some years so that should be interesting and have today's guests.

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Today for all these weekends festivities and at-guests is SportsCard Therapist Rob Gerard.

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Rob got a whole lot of me. He said, "Hey, you want to come to Springfield Massachusetts, set

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up at the show and be on a hobby panel discussion I'm moderating and check my schedule, check

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the distance and definitely was doable and set them in. That's what's going on this weekend.

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So the show was April 8th and I hope to see and we're going to talk about it on today's

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episode with Rob Gerard. We're going to talk about the show he's obviously very familiar with

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it and knows all that in the tales and we're going to preview that but we're going to talk

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about the hobby content creation and the whole mess of other things as well. So not just about

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that show but we're definitely going to preview that too. So with that being said, let's get

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things kicked off here.

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It's time to start the show. Let's go!

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[Music]

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All right, real happy to be joined by my next guest on the sports card shop. Guess line, it's not

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as first time. This is his second appearance. I am going to actually see this gentleman this weekend

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and springfield Massachusetts. We are definitely going to be talking about that amongst other

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things. He might be the busiest man in the hobby. You might wear that belt. We're going to talk

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definitely about that and how he balances all that stuff out. Please welcome Rob Gerard's sports card

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therapist. John John John, how are you doing my friend? It is a honor and a privilege to be on your

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show once again. I really look at you as the godfather of hobby content. You know, almost like James Brown

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in his prime. I picture you up on stage with the microphone just kind of doing your thing.

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I like the godfather of Revers. That's my favorite movie. I can't go wrong with James Brown either.

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Either way, I'll take that as a win-win. Like I said in the lead in there, I mean,

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I make me the oldest guy or one of them, but you're probably the busiest guy between your own content,

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Wolf Pack content, now PWCC Sunday night watch party content. You're a dad, you're a husband,

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you have two young kids, you're a therapist. Obviously, as your name entails, you know, two questions.

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How do you make time and when do you sleep? You know, I mean, listen, I get most of my sleep.

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Except for Sunday nights. Sunday nights are the rough ones because, you know, I'm

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going to go on YouTube live and do a two-hour show, you know, in partnership with PWCC. Like you said.

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So I get kind of fired up from that. And, you know, if at N1130 it usually takes me until about 12

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30 or one to kind of wind down. And I'll go right to bed and just kind of lay there and it takes me

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a while just to kind of wind down from that. But, you know, it doesn't feel like I'm that busy.

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And I think it's because no matter what I've done over the course of my life, I've always had a hobby.

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So I've been on my way 15 years and I've always had a hobby that has taken up a ton of real estate

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in my personal life. And she's always been, you know, a good sport about that, you know. So no matter what,

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I've always had huge hobbies and when I, you know, got back into the hobby, you know, over three years ago.

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Now, you know, she's like, oh, this is just going to be a phase. This is just going to be a phase. I'm like,

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and I'm like, babe, you don't understand. Like, this was my childhood. I grew up doing this. And even,

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you know, a couple of times over the last 15 years, I did my toe back in the hobby. And I was in for six

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months, like in 2010 and then kind of fell back out, 2013, game back in, fell back out, you know. So,

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you know, it, I heard a quote the other day from, from Michael Moynihan. He was on cousins collectibles.

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And he said, you know, I never left the hobby because I always had my cards. I just stopped buying

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for years. And that's kind of how I felt. That's in it that's still how I feel. And he said that was like,

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yes, because I don't feel like, you know, and I know I'm kind of going off and a tangent here. But I was

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actually just talking to Ken from sports hard lessons today on the phone. And I said that, you know,

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there's guys like, you know, John Newman and there's other people that have had that were making

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content, you know, four or five, six years ago before the pandemic. And I think like they almost look at,

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you know, the people that came back and fully during the pandemic is like the new guys. And I don't

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know if we'll ever not be looked at as the new guys. But I was collecting in the 80s. I was collecting

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in the 90s. I held down to all my cards. You know, I had everything. You know what I mean? So it's like,

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I don't feel like the new guy, even though, you know, I just fully came back in three years ago.

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I don't, I feel like I've been doing this lifetime. Well, I can only answer that question just for

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myself, Rob. I don't look at people like that. There's no pension plan here. This isn't teaching

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where you get 10 year right. And like you said, if you've always had your stuff, you might, you might

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hit pause on buying and selling. I have, I've done, I did that for four or five years, for as long as

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I've been in the hobby. So I'm welcoming to everyone. I don't really label people new or old.

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I was new. It was 1979, but which dates me, but we're all were new at some point. So what difference does it

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make? Right? And so I don't look at it like that. And you know, I don't care whether you came in

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yesterday or 40 years ago, right? Everyone's important in the hobby. And we need people in the hobby.

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If there no one's in the hobby, we probably not talking about a hobby. We're definitely probably not

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doing this show. We probably wouldn't know each other. So I don't, again, I always hate it. I'm

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sure there's no pension plan. Whether I'm in it longer than someone else, it doesn't make me better

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or worse. You know, the only thing it might make me is a little more experience, just because I'm old.

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And I've done a lot of stuff, but not better, right? Just experience. And so that's my take.

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Obviously, I can only speak for myself. I'm sure what you said probably bring true for some others where

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maybe they look at someone new and maybe not sort of a nice way. And you know, that's unfortunate.

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It shouldn't really be like that. I don't like, if it weren't that happens, I don't like that.

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It does occur. It'll never, you know, as far as how I handle myself, I don't look at it like that.

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You know, I may ask somebody just for content material, but other than that, it really doesn't.

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It doesn't sway my opinion of them one way or the other. And it really shouldn't end up.

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There's people whether you're, you know, three years back or whatever the case may be, you're doing

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big stuff. So it doesn't matter. You know, there's no belt based on time serve. So that's never been

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my approach. But it's step aside for real quick break, but we won't be gone too long.

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Welcome back to SportsCard Nation. Let's continue our conversation with SportsCard therapist Rob Jurar.

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Now you mentioned, you know, PWCC, it sort of relates Sunday night for you. Have you as an

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author of your works schedule or if you've maintained the same thing, just maybe on a little less

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sleep? No, yeah. I've maintained the same thing just a little bit less sleep.

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You know, it's been, it's been an incredible experience so far being able to partner up with them.

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You know, over the course of the last couple of years, I've experienced a reasonable level of success with

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my podcast and I never partnered up with anyone. I never agreed to any kind of sponsorships.

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You've never heard me read a ad on my show. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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But that's just not anything that I've ever done. So when the PWCC thing came along,

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you know, it's a brand that I trust. It's a brand that I respect. No one's perfect. You know, they've had

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their bumps in the road. Just like I've had my bumps in the road in life. You know, so

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but overall though, they felt like it was a great situation for me just to continue to do what I

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loved. You know, it's like I get to sit there for two hours and bring on some of the greatest minds

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in hobby, in the, in the hobby, in the vintage space and really just, you know, talk with them about

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all these cards that are going on. I mean, every Sunday night, I feel like I'm taking a, um,

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a doctorate class. I'm taking a PhD class for two hours on vintage cards and, um, you know,

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I mean, vintage cards is really just turned into my absolute lane. And that started, I think,

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probably probably about two years ago was when I, I fully realized like, you know, what vintage is

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gives me feelings? You know, it's almost like, you know, when you, you meet a woman, you know,

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it's like when you met your wife for the first time. It's like you get those butterflies and,

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and you're feeling things you've never felt before. That, that's how I felt when I went to

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National and rose my Illinois two years ago and I was just surrounded by just hundreds of tables

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of vintage and, um, I spent almost an entire day just in that vintage section that was there right

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when you first walked in. And, uh, and this is the lane where I just feel so much at home, you know,

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and I'm a historian anyways, like, I'm a big history buff. So even outside of sports, but with sports,

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you know, so it's like, I've already really done my homework on players, teams, like, I know this

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stuff. I'm a sports historian, just like a lot of us are. But for me, you know, um, you know,

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it's come up to like, you know, learning about the sets and learning about, you know, which sets are

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infamous for being off-centered and miscut and, uh, which, which sets get wrongly labeled as trimmed

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often, you know, they'll get a great of trimmed altered, even though, no, that was a factory miscut.

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And, and so it's like, it's about learning those little nuances of the sets, um, but it's been

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spending credible. I mean, my, my time in the hobby, back into the hobby so far has been,

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it's been, and I couldn't, I couldn't have, I couldn't have drunk that.

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Thank you back enough what you said, Rob, in doing that show, you know, it's also, I, I feel like

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your learning stuff too, right? We don't know everything, uh, for, even someone like myself was

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been in it in a long time. I learned stuff about hobby every day as I should, like, the minute I

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stop learning, I really have to question what I'm doing. Uh, so, you know, talk about how that

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coverage has actually, you know, help you, has it, has it, has it, has it helped you and has it changed your

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approach to what you want or what you want to acquire? Oh, yeah, absolutely. It is, I'm going to tell you

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something that I just learned last night or I just learned on Sunday night. Sorry, um, on the last

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Sunday night auction that I did. Um, so we were looking at a 1933 Gaudy, Jimmy Fox, and, um,

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I didn't realize until last night, what makes this card such a coveted card of Jimmy Fox is that that was

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this triple crown year. So that was this triple crown year, um, just like, you know, you think about

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Demazio and his play ball, you know, his play ball card when he won the triple crown. Um, you know,

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you think about, uh, mantle and 56 with his 56 tops. The reason why that card is usually four to five

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X, what the Jackie Robinson is, you know, when seven, eight X with the Willie Maze is because it's

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their triple crown years, you know, and something really cool that I've, um, that I, uh, so you, you

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asked me, has it really been directing like what I've been picking up, and that's without a doubt

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it has, this is something that I had just posted. And for people watching on YouTube, they can see this

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but I'll try to paint the picture for the podcast listeners. Um, so there are not many players

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that were featured as playing it playing day years that were featured in both the T206 set and the 33

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Gaudy set, which are arguably the two greatest baseball sets of all time. You could throw 52

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tops in there obviously, you know, but those are the big three, you know, is the T206, which is 19

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known that between 1909 to 1911, the 1933 Gaudy and then the 52 tops. Um, but there's very few

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players that were featured in both as players, the T206 and the 1933 Gaudy. So the my first pick-up that I

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got, right, and I wasn't planning on doing this, but um, for those of you maybe not familiar with

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the Uncle Jimmy collection, so the Uncle Jimmy collection, you know, um, this guy, uh, James Uncle

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Jimmy, he's, uh, he was, you know, born and raised in New Jersey, never had kids, never married,

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and his entire, throughout his entire life. He got these incredible on-card autographs of all these vintage

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cards. So there's a 33 Gaudy, big roof, you got autographed. I mean, everything you can think of.

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So when he finally passed away and they, his family, you know, inherited all his cards. They had no

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idea what they were looking at, but they, um, you know, found someone in the hobby that could really help

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them figure out like how to properly liquidate this collection, basically. And um, and this gentleman that

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they brought on board, he was a guy from, um, I don't know if he worked for PSA or, or what, but he was

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able to every single Uncle Jimmy card that came from that collection was able to get designated by PSA

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as the Uncle Jimmy collection. So when this card, I, I knew as a vintage person for me, it meant

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so much to get, um, a card from the Uncle Jimmy collection. And they're impossible to get. You look

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on eBay right now, and there's only one piece of memorabilia from the Uncle Jimmy collection, and it's a

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newspaper article that was signed by, um, Ted Williams. And it was PSA Slabbed, you know, as the Uncle

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Jimmy collection, because that, that was an discussion, but there's no cards at all available on eBay.

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Really anywhere, you know, all these cards are have been purchased and talked away in

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collections. People aren't getting rid of them. So I had the chance to pick up a Jack Quinn. And if you look

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at how gorgeous of a card this is, this is a 1933 Gaudy. And if you look right on the PSA Lab,

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Slab label says Uncle Jimmy collection. So that autograph is incredible. I mean, right in the

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perfect way. I mean, obviously wasn't signed yesterday, but that's how Chris. Yeah. And Sharp

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really is Rob. So so I was able to find out that someone had an Uncle Jimmy card they were willing

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to move. So the, the, the, the gentleman was like, hey, listen, this guy that I know has this card. He's

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willing to move it, but there's a very big premium on it. You know, so you're going to be paying for it.

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I don't care who you are, Rob. You're going to be paying for it. So he said, but what's really cool about it

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is, um, you know, he educated me on how he's actually featured in Gaudy and T206. So I bought this

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before it was in the mail before I even had it in hand. I went online and bought the Jack Quinn

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T206. So now I have both of you actually went T206 and Gaudy and the Gaudy is the Uncle Jimmy collection.

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So so yeah, it's been, it is completely, I don't want to say completely shifted my collecting,

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but the education is brought in is incredible. Yeah. And, and know, and you know, if it does

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change what you, what you think and it's not wrong with that too, a little bit, right? The more we're

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educated or we learn something new, right? That's, that's a, that's a good thing. I've bought stuff just

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on something I've learned and, you know, I don't think we have to feel like apologize or or anything like that.

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Like I said, I try to learn something every day. You are listening to the sports card nation podcast.

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around the world. We are back. Is it different kind of highlighting some cards and yet you're like,

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hey, I want to get this too, but now I'm kind of broadcasting to everyone, like I'm, you know,

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opening the competition lane. Is that a weird scenario? You know, it is. It is and, you know,

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what people, no one's really asking me that before. I've talked about it before, you know, with people,

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but no one's really asked me that on a show. So I would definitely be glad to discuss that. So I've

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been collecting vintage for years now. So all these cards I have on the screen behind me,

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these are all cards I've had, you know, well before anything to do with PWCC. So my content that I was

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putting out right now on my podcast, I'm, I think, in my YouTube show, I'm at episode 165, I think. So,

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you know, I a lot of episodes in the bank and most of my content was just, you know, naturally

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shifted toward vintage. Even though there's definitely some modern, but I like to think that my

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show has a much more modern feel. You know, I've listened to some podcast where it's vintage

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based and it just kind of like feels vintage based, but I think I've kind of figured out my own brand

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to make vintage almost feel like fresh. So I think that's, that's, I think that's a big part of the

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reason why PWCC approached me. Well, I know that's kind of, you know what they said they said like,

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listen, we love what you're doing. We don't want you to change a bit. We just want you to start,

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you know, doing our vintage auctions and, you know, after meeting with them and their staff

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and, you know, talking about what the game plan was, I was thrilled to be on board, thrilled to so,

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so yeah, you know, I had people in the vintage community that message me and it's kind of like a double

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edged sword because it's one of these things where I talk about vintage so much that like,

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you could say I'm pumping vintage, but the thing is like, I'm not selling any of my vintage and

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and I had people in the vintage community that love that vintage, they feel like vintage cards

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are getting some really good exposure and I'm, I'm proud to feel like I might be playing a small role

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in that. So that's really cool. But you know, I have people in the vintage community that I'm friends

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with and they say, man, Rob, I feel like six months ago, I was getting steals on PWCC and now I'm

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paying above comps on every single auction and I'm telling you every single Sunday, just this past

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Sunday, I mean, we watched what we're seeing records broken every single weekend for vintage on PWCC.

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It's unbelievable. I mean, they're they're they're smashing pandemic hype prices, you know,

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Sunday, night, a 1954 Ernie Banks rookie PSA 7. The all-time high, like during like the

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hype of the pandemic was 94 hundred for PSA 7. This PSA 7 Sunday night went for 12-8. I think. So

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went for like 3K over 25% over. So yeah, it is one of those things where it's like, man, I'm looking

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at these cards, but you know, I really want to discuss the beauty of these cards though. I really want

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you know, and I'll have guys mess with me. I don't talk about that. Make me think tonight.

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I'm going for it. I'm like, oh my, just some sorry, man. I'm sorry. Like, I have to. I mean,

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to make some side deals here, right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, it's funny though. But that's, you know, that's the thing. Like, it's,

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but you would joy at your passions there so much that you even if maybe it prevents you from

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getting that card, you still have enough passion and enjoyment for what you're doing. It's worth

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more, and you can still always maybe get it down online. You just keep it on your list of things.

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And you know what's cool too is what's cool too is I'm, you know, because I'm really digging. I am

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digging into these auctions every week. I'm just taking my time. I'm looking through all these vintage

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cards that are going up. You know, because I'm highlighting anywhere's between 75 and 100, 100 of them

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that I'm going to favor it and that we're going to highlight over the course of two hours and watch,

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right? So I'm digging into these cards that I would have never been looking for. So I actually just got this

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in the mail today. If this is a card I want to think two weeks ago on the PWCC auction. So so when it

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comes to basketball, the first and actually just posted this a few nights ago. The first pack pulled

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NBA official set is 48 Bowman. If you look over my shoulder, you can see the George Micon,

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I have the mic in right here. Right. This is the first the first big official NBA set 48. But on the

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PWCC auction, I was able to find this 1936 Cosmos Olympia card. So this is an Olympic card from 1936

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of them playing basketball. That's cool. In the grade of an SGC5, I mean, talk about talk about a

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F-in collectible. And listen, Rob, you said you love history even outside the hobby outside of sports.

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It's funny when you were saying that I was not and because I'm the same way. And if you know anything

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about the 36 Olympics, huge backstory there, you know, with Hitler and we're German Joins. Yeah. So

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and that's the Olympics it was at. So there's a lot of gears involved with that

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Olympics and that card from. In this set, yeah, this set to this 1936 Cosmos set. There's a lot of

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Hitler cards in this set. If there's a lot of Hitler cards, there's a lot of Jesse Owens. And you know,

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there's very few basketball ones. But you know, I saw the basketball one and I'm like, you know,

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it's one of these cards that I think that people are just like, it's just really flying

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below the radar. You know, everyone's looking at everything else. And I see this card and I'm like,

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I'm going to grab this card like, like, how is it this cheap? You know, so I end up grabbing this

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card and this is going to be a really cool piece just to have in my case when I set up at shows that,

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you know, I can talk to people about and I'm not going to move. You know, it's one of those things.

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Conversation cards. Yeah. Yeah.

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We were talking before we recorded this segment and you were sharing a story. I asked you if you

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you have two young kids, your daughter, this older than your son who's very young and I asked you,

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if your daughter is showing any interest and you shared an interesting story. I wanted to make sure

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if you don't mind doing it again, talking about that. Yeah, absolutely. So my daughter who is going to be

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three in June, she is just my everything. When people talk about the father and daughter

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relationship, it is absolutely that way. Whenever I've gotten big cards, I've

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longed it. As long as it's slabed, I'd let her hold it and I would take pictures of her holding it and

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looking at it. That way years from now when she's older, we can look back and back. Oh my god,

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there's a picture I posted on my Instagram a few months back and she's holding my 1951 Bowman

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Manetal. Yeah, and we both are wearing the same shirt with this card on there. It was amazing.

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And she was like giddy with laughter and that picture. It's one of my favorite pictures, absolutely.

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So she knows all about daddy's cards. She knows daddy's cards. She knows daddies cards. She knows and

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she calls him "cods." It's almost like she has a master juice jacks and a sticker.

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So daddy's cards. So what I did a few weeks ago was I went on eBay and I saw the big Disney

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craze, right? Everyone's talking about Disney. Those Disney boxes that got pumped to the moon

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and now they're probably going to be selling for pennies on the dollar. I'm the next month or two,

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very sad thing. It's just like the WWE prism releases. That's why I never tried to fall into

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foam and I always wait. Even if I wanted to get one of those Disney boxes, I'd be a fool to try to buy

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them in the first week out. But that did what seeing that did plant the seed in my head and I said,

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"You know what? I wonder if they have any Disney frozen cards because even though frozen is 10 years

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old, my daughter is going to be three." So she's just discovering frozen this last year. She absolutely loves

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it. So I looked on eBay and I found a guy who was selling the main six characters,

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right? There's main six characters in them and he had all six characters in PSA 10s, PSA 9s,

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and PSA 8s. And the serial numbers on them and their PSA graded the serial numbers are like 7 to blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, which means they were literally just graded probably within the last month.

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You know? So he probably, you know, just played the game that everyone else plays, right?

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Get as many as graded as you can and if you hit tens that should pay for everything, you know? So the

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tens, he was selling the six tens for 600 bucks. I'm like, "Well, I'm not spending that."

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You know? And then I think he was selling the six nines for 400 bucks. Then he was selling the six

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eights. I think he was selling them for 100. And I said, "Hmm, okay." So I message him, "Yadiyada, yadiyada."

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And I end up getting them for $60. So I get them in the mail, you know, PSA graded. I open the,

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you know, I got my daughter open the box because she loves opening everything, whether it's mail,

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if it's an Amazon box, she wants to be the one opening. When she saw those frozen cart,

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her eyes just lit up like nothing I've ever seen. And now they're, you know, in the family,

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we're mixed in with her toys. Those are her cards, which are really cool. So that's awesome. And you might

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have created a monster right there that, that they are a future one I should say. So, I don't know.

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But you know, that's awesome, right? As a dad and, and those, you know, and my son's a little bit

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into the cards, right? Not in the same fashion, I am. But he has a collection of, of his own and

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who does your son? Who does your son? Believe in I say, huge Tim T. Bo guy. Believe it or not. So he

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is awesome. He, he, he, he, like, he was a high school quarterback. He wore number 15. He met him. He

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got a Florida jersey signed by himself. He's a T. Bo guy. Even though, you know, T. Bo said now on the

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he broadcast site, you know, what though T. Bo cards still go for money. Yeah, they do.

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It's like a good T. Bo card. You're going to be paying up for that. It's great. Yeah, it is.

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Little, little last now, but you're exactly right there. Yeah. Or someone that didn't have a

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a story, you know, professional career. I've always wanted to create this college quarterbacks

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of all time, but didn't didn't get there on the next level. The stuff still, like you said,

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an exactly right, it does go for more than you would have thought. But it just sort of,

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the legend of T. Bo and then the urban buyer and all that stuff. And Aaron Hermand as,

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then to, yeah, they actually doesn't collect him by the way, by the way, grew up,

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yeah, the teen minutes from me. And it's crazy that I even mentioned Aaron Hernandez hold on.

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Literally right by my side, I have an Aaron Hernandez RPA. Yeah, I know. Listen, man. It's very

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sad case what happened. Yeah, listen, listen, we can, we can, you can talk about the off-field stuff.

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But when you talk about just the on-field stuff, one of, you know, had that work out a different way.

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You could have been arguably the greatest tight end of the play in the NFL. And that, you know,

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you can't, you know, regardless of how you feel about everything else, you know, that. And we're just talking

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to football in. I mean, you was a tremendous player. Just that's the tragic part of the story.

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But obviously, the people of lost their lives, but you know, himself included, you know, that could have been

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a different kind of story. And no one can argue with the talent that he possess. So I hear what

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I hear you there. And again, your relationship being where you are is going to be different than me

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sitting here in Syracuse anyway. So that's just, you know, that's how it goes. So, but yeah,

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that that whole team was with something else to. And so yeah, is a team of guys. But, you know, he picks

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he picks his spots and I'll pick him up stuff here and there. Time to hear from one of our great

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you covered. SportsCon Nation has retimes. This shows out on Friday. If you're listening to this,

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I'll show release day and it works out. Okay, I safely arrived from driving in Springfield,

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Massachusetts. I'll be checking out the basketball hall. I've never been there. So I'll do that on Friday.

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But you were gracious enough to invite me to the show, which is there on Saturday. And they will follow

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in the show. There will be a hobby panel moderated by you. And I'm happy to be on the panel with

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the other distinguished guests as well and looking forward to it. I've never been to the show. You

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obviously have for me, I guess, and everyone else listening, kind of give your synopsis

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of what this show, what it tells, what it's like, talk about the panel and all that other stuff.

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Yeah, definitely, man. And listen, no need to thank me for getting on the panel because you being on

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the speaker panel at the basketball hall of fame. After the big Springfield show right before

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trade night is absolutely something that you have earned. So nothing has been given to you, my friend.

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You have earned that at the very, very least. I mean, you're perspective, you're knowledge of the hobby,

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everything overall. I feel like when I look at, when I look at the panel, guests, you absolutely

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bring something incredibly unique. And when you look at the guests who are going to have on this

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hobby panel at the basketball hall of fame Saturday night April 8, 2023, it starts at 6 p.m.

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So we have John Newman from SportsCard Nation podcast. We have Chris Costa from Card Ball,

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who's huge. I mean, that's huge on the in the north east. Here's a guy that created

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quite a company, you know, opened up a card store right outside Patriot Stadium, opened up a second

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card store inside the Mojiquin San Casino and Connecticut is probably going to be opening up a third

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card show inside the Boston Garden where the Celtics play. You know, just unbelievable what they've

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been able to do. We're also going to have Mike Kant from MC SportsCards, who is arguably one of the

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biggest eBay consignors on eBay MC SportsCards. He's going to be on the panel. We have our good friend

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Ken from SportsCard lessons, who is, you know, going to be talking about things from a dealer perspective.

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And he's a teacher and his, his, his main focus on his podcast is just talking about the lessons that

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he's had to learn the hard way and some the easy way. And in the hobby, we have hobby shark who is

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his turned into one of these hobby watchdogs and one of the biggest most known most controversial

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hobby watchdogs in the hobby. And that's something I feel like we could do in an entire episode

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of what I was just talking about. hobby watchdogs, the good, the bad and the ugly because even though I think

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I'm guilty of, you know, being overly positive sometimes and just trying to focus on the good of the hobby

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and almost like putting on blinders, you know, I've been educated by some people, you know,

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that are in that hobby watchdog space and just in terms of like, listen, you can do that. You can

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be positive, but it's almost, you know, you do have a certain responsibility to report the truth. And so I'm,

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I'm kind of, you know, I've sat back and said, you know, what, okay, you know, two shy. And so, you know,

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having him there is going to be really good. And then last but not least, we have Jonathan who is basketball

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card guy. And, you know, Jonathan is someone that was putting out content before the pandemic and kind of

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has a cult following in himself, you know, of people. So I think it's going to be a really, really interesting mix

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on the panel and, and my opinion, John, you are absolutely right there where you belong and I can't wait.

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I cannot wait to throw questions at you guys and to take questions from the audience because that's what

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happens. We have someone walking around the microphone and as hands get raised, you know, I call on people

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and someone walks up to them with the microphone and they ask the panel questions and, and, you know,

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the first time we did it was an incredible, incredible experience. This is going to be our second time

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doing it. This will not be the last. So as far as the Springfield Show goes, the show is,

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it's a great show. It's in a great location. It's a huge venue. So there's a couple hundred tables

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that are going to be there. I'm quite certain that you are, are you going to be set up next to me?

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That's the one word I'm sort of getting to vibe. I'm sort of getting is that's going to be the case.

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So I don't want to say, I don't want to say what a hundred percent certainly, but I, yeah, that's

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I hope so. Yeah. Because let me tell you, John, John from the New England card show and he

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has company prime time cards. John has always taken care of me. We have a great relationship. He

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is someone that is hungry. He's made a name for himself and his brand and the hobby. I mean,

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the fact that he was able to think about it. If we were sitting here listening to a podcast,

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probably connect content creators and they're sitting there hosting trade nights and

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panel discussions at the football hall of fame and can't know how we would be like, what are I

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coopers to? We'd be like, oh my god. So it's almost like, I have to pinch myself sometimes sometimes

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and say, don't take this for granted, Rob. This is really, really cool that we're doing this.

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John is, John is just built such a great reputation and he's always looked out for me and I know,

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you know, as soon as you walk in that massive room of the show, usually my table is right there,

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front and center. So I'm hoping that you're going to be right there with me. Someone's at my door.

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doing your own research. Let's go! You are listening to the Spalt Scott Nation Booker.

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You know, it's a good show. You're going to have so many different, so many different types of

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vendors, so many different types of dealers. If you're looking for sports cards, baseball, hockey, golf,

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tennis, Pokemon, vintage, modern, super modern, everything is there. Everything is there. And the cool thing

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is to is the show ends at five and the basketball hall of fame is about one mile away. It's literally

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a three minute drive from there. So you have an hour and between the show ending and then to get over

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to the hall for the panel discussion. That's awesome. And just first off, thanks for the kind words.

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I don't know what you said and I appreciate it. I don't walk around like that, though, I don't feel like

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any sort of entitlement. So when you're invited to that stuff, it's always humbling. I try to go to

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when that occurs. I try to get to as much as possible. So that's why I appreciate that.

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Well John, last time I saw you at National, though, I saw you get pulled in on a chair yet.

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So you're telling me that you don't want to see me in a toga. I promise for those listening or

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going to the show that won't be that won't be the case because you were literally sitting on a chair

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and people were holding it up and walking you in. Now, and God bless the listen. There's

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260 pounds here. I feel sorry for those people if they ever had to do such a thing. But no, all since

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here at the last year, I know I've said this, not on the show, but I'm going to thank you in person too.

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So if you think you're done here and thank you, there's more where this is coming from. Because,

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like you said, you said, the best yourself, right? You can't take a flight this for granted.

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And so when things like that happen, and you get to be even a small part of it, it's just very cool.

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If you love the hobby, if you're passionate about it, why wouldn't you want to try to do as much

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as as you can? If I've ever said no, it's more of a logistics thing than a lack of wanting to do it than anything

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out. So, well, you can't say yes to everything. There's been plenty of things in the hobby that

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unfortunately I've had to turn down going on people's podcasts, going to different trade nights and

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stuff. I can't do everything. It goes back to that balance thing. The thing is one of the hardest

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things in the world to say is now, it's hard to say no to people. And when you are busy, like you are,

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and when you're busy like I am, and when you're busy like a lot of the people in our hobby,

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a lot of your listeners have families, a lot of your listeners, and they give up their spare time

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to, you know, they're taking 40 minutes out of their day to listen to your show right now. And,

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sometimes the hardest thing to say is now, but sometimes that's what you have to do. You have to do

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that for your own sanity. You're saying no so that you can say yes to your family. Yeah, no doubt. Well said,

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and you're synopsis too. It sounds like there'll be something for everyone at the show no matter

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what you collect, who you collect, how you collect, you know, 200 plus tables. You're going to find something

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you desire or want. Then you got the panel, then you got the trade show. It's going to be a

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jam pack Saturday, hope to see. I know you feel this way too, I hope to see a lot of people there.

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It's going to be fun. You know, it won't be, I won't be dragging on Sunday, but it's going to be worth it

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for the fun on Saturday. I appreciate you speaking to be in busy, like you said, and I

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call you in a busy sky, in the hobby. I appreciate you coming on and making some time for for us.

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As always, I give our guests kind of to find a word and give out any socials, websites, anything you

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want to get out there. It's only fair and right. So take your time and get that stuff out there.

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I appreciate it. It sports card therapist all across the board. All you guys do is type that in.

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I'm sure you'll find me. You know, John again, thank you very much for really, you know, being,

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you know, one of the guys that have has truly paved the way for us to be able to make podcasts and for

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there to be an audience to find them. There's a few guys who I always, you know, really give my

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flowers to and, and, you know, a couple of guys I consider close friends, you know, and one of them is you

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on the podcast side, you know, really, really laying that foundation and laying that groundwork down.

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And, you know, I've heard you talk about before in your podcast how your first few episodes were

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like recorded through the phone and you would never want to go back and let's enjoy them and whatnot.

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But I tell you about listen, you, there were still people listening back then and you were building

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the foundation for all content creators back then. And then I think as someone like Jeremy Lee,

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who has really, you know, laid the foundation for doing these, doing these auction, these

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YouTube watch party auctions, you know, and I've told him that before and given him his flowers and just said,

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like, thank you man, because if it wasn't for you, I don't know if P W C C would have been looking for someone

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like me. So, you know, I think we're all kind of here off the backs of each other and the people that came before us.

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Yeah, no doubt. No, I agree. And I appreciate those sentiments and there were people even before

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me too. So I don't want, you know, it's, it's, it's a fraternity, right? We're all in this together. You should try to

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help each other as much as, as you can, and, you know, anyone that does this, as you well know, right?

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No, it's not as easy as it's sometimes appears. You know, an episode might be 40 minutes an hour,

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but there's a little more time than what you actually hear. You know that very well yourself.

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What would research, editing and all that other stuff. And so I appreciate all content creators,

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just just because it'll work on that goes in. And so to be mentioned with anybody, really,

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is, I appreciate that. So looking forward to seeing you here very shortly, Rob, and in the flesh,

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and have some fun and encourage everyone else out there, if you're near the Springfield,

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Massachusetts area, or even if you're not and you want to take a road trip, come on down and just

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real quick to wanted to mention before we kind of get off the air. That panel, you do need tickets to get in.

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You can get those tickets to coming. I've been told to Rob's table, so see Rob, or on my self,

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and we might be right next to each other. So either or, I get your ticket to that high-view panel

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discussion, which is going to be a real fun time, and hopefully get some great audience participation

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and questions as well, obviously. Absolutely. And let me ask you, are you going to have the 48

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Jackie there with you? I don't take that. I don't, because I'm not going to sell it, right? So

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what if you had the chance to upgrade it though, and you didn't bring it? Yeah, I don't know.

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You know what my fear is, Rob, is, you know, in my old age, I get clumsy, I drop,

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it's something stupid happen and it's gone, right? Or even worse, right? Somehow it gets lifted. I'm

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pretty careful with that, but I just always think the worst case scenario, right? So, you know, if I was

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selling it for sure, you know, but I'm not really, you know, but I get asked, you know, I don't know,

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I have to think about it. So you got years a little bit of a turn, but probably probably not just

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for my safety more, more than others, but yeah, it's going to be looking forward to it. And again,

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hope to see a lot of folks there. And I appreciate you making some time for the show today.

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Thank you, John, love you and I love the content, man, and keep it up. Well, right back, right back,

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ancient brother, we'll see you soon. All right, awesome catching up with Rob. That's the second time

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he's been on the show and busy guy like I said. That wasn't just tugging, tricking, being funny.

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It's probably one of the busiest content creators in the hobby. So appreciate them coming on,

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making some time, previewing this weekend's festivities. Again, if you're listening to this on Friday,

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release day of the show or Saturday, the next day, you know, there's a show at the Springfield

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Massachusetts, the Hall of Fame show New England Card Show. Like Rob said, promoted by John from Prime

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Time Sports and it's in the event and it's out. Saturday's jam pack, you got the show,

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you got the hobby panel, that's all the fame and then you got trade night immediately following

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that. So, going to be a busy Saturday and if you're in the area or even if you want to take a little road

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trip and have a great hobby Saturday, I hope to meet some of you for the first time or maybe I've

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mentioned before and looking forward to and like I said, appreciate Rob for the invite and I don't,

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you know, I travel a few times a year for what I do like content creation, what why's and the

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glad I can make this trip. And again, thanks for having me and we'll see you hopefully soon here.

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That's a wrap on another edition of the SportsCard Nation podcast. Thank you to all the awesome

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listeners out there without you there is no us. Thank you to all our great guests who drive this show.

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