Card Mensches E8 "Things we've change our mind about"

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Hey, I'm getting one.

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And I'm John Newman.

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Welcome.

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To Card Manchys.

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Well, happy Friday.

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It's a card meant Friday.

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How you doing, John?

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Good.

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It's been a week.

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What's going on?

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Oh, wait.

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That's the regular rotation.

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It's been two weeks.

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I know.

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That's what I meant.

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Exactly.

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We've got a big week ahead.

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Center, Change HQ.

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I want to give them a compliment because they've become a verb.

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People were saying center stage at the last show.

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Is that so?

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Yeah.

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Anytime.

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Yeah.

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Well, I don't want to say anytime.

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Most times you become a verb.

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It's pretty good.

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Not all the time.

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[Laughs]

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You know, if you're a baseball player and you're a buck nerd to ball, that's, you know,

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that's not a verb.

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You want to be, you know, have a.

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I heard he at Bill Buckner were so upset after the world series.

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He went right into what was going to go right into traffic.

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Carl went between his legs.

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So even in desk, he's still getting picked up.

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Uh, no.

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He was.

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He's Bill Buckner was an underrated player and all.

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He was.

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He was.

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Yes.

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He was.

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And actually, that was one of the things that I didn't realize when I was younger, that I learned

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when I was older and changed my mind.

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And that's what we're talking about today or things in the hobby where we've changed our minds.

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Yeah.

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And the first thing I want to say is it's okay to change your mind.

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I think that sometimes people are so kind of stuck in the mud.

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And, you know, I could qualify with this as certain things.

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But it's okay to, you know, as you mature or things change in the world or in the hobby to have

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a different approach.

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And so tonight show is obviously going to be happy related, not politics or anything else.

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Going to be hobby stuff that we've done a 180 on.

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We've kind of each picked three things that we've sort of did an about face on on how we feel

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about it in approach.

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I will start out by saying this, NFTs are not did not make the list.

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They still feel the same about it today as I did when they came out.

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Maybe even more so.

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So sorry NFTs, you did not make today show.

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That's funny.

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I think you also six months ago said to me, Danny, what's dibs?

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So.

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Hips is what you call like next game.

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Like I got dibs on next game, you know, which is I'm sure where I'm sure where they

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came up with the name as well from.

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But you won't be here or net, shortly, at least pertaining to the business side of it.

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Any more say announced they were going to fuck.

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So you can say I got dibs on next game now and not be talking about a business.

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So, okay, so we said we've changed our mind on things.

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Let's talk about stuff that's not necessarily one our list.

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Okay, I just think general, I've changed my mind on things as a sports fan.

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And maybe it's technology.

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I don't feel the need to go to as many games in person as I used to when I was young.

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When I was younger, you know, I felt I couldn't miss any games in maybe now.

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I've kids on the little bit older.

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I enjoy a game on TV.

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Maybe they're quality of the picture.

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So that's something I've changed my mind on probably base cards.

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That's something that I didn't use to enjoy maybe quite as much.

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But those are just some general ideas of things that we might be talking about tonight.

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So if anybody has stuff in the comments, dad, and we definitely wanted to throw

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to those throughout the year.

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And no doubt, if you, we care about what you guys feel and think.

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So put in the chat room.

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And even if you're listening to this after we're done being live, put it on the comments.

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Things you've done, you know, 180 on that.

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Maybe even you never thought you yourself would do, but yet there you are, right?

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It's a mid and where human and we have emotions and feelings and those feelings and emotions

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can change whenever the mood strikes us and hits us.

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And again, we're going to talk about three things each for us.

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And this is everyone's show.

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So we care about, you know, or even if you agree or disagree with some of our opinions as well.

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Well, who do you want to kick it off here?

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You want to go first or you?

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Yeah, I can go first.

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So I'll try to go in sort of a crescendo order of, you know, least shocking to more shocking

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if you will.

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None of these are really shocking.

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I know of this claim or there.

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But for me, not sports stuff.

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And like I've never really was sort of a non sports guy.

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It was always sort of baseball football, basketball hockey in my collecting even in selling.

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Even as a dealer, I didn't really veer off that path too much.

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Some of that, I think the main crux of why is frankly, I didn't know enough of non sports.

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You know, I don't like this stuff thing that I don't, I can't talk about or explain to a potential buyer.

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That was definitely a reason I never, like, had it as a show in Tory.

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But even as a collector, I just never really, you know, maybe when I was a kid, I know some of the first cards I had were not the 79 big.

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I remember, I don't remember, open in packs.

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So some of them must have gave them to me, but the jaws card made by top spec day.

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I had some of those that I think someone just said, hey, you want these and I'm like, okay, and I, you know, I had them.

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So, but that's not really collecting them. I didn't have a set.

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I wasn't going out looking for, hey, where can I get more of these?

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It just someone gave them to me.

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I thought they were kind of neat and that was the end of it.

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So that's my first thing.

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I've sort of changed my mind.

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I'm not sports as some have seen what my social media.

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I've really acquired some, you know, Grails, I acquired Billy Jules,

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and Amy Sticker, I just acquired Al Pacino's first appearance on any kind of trading card collected both a Spanish release,

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1976, brand called Fans, FA and AS.

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I've got Lady Gaga's first card, yes, I'm a, you know, I'm a Lady Gaga fan to truth come doubt

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I've already kind of announced that.

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I'm trying to think what is there any truth to the room where you're going to start tonight's show in a name?

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And if anything, I'd have a meat suit on before I come out of the name.

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Because then I could put those on the grill and it's like multi purpose.

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Like it could be an outfit and dinner at the same time.

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The egg is just a prop and then what do you do with it?

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Takes up space in the corner of your room.

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At least the meat suit.

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I could fire up and we have dinner for like the next three or four, the next three or four days.

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And I want to give a shout out, one of the reasons I think I've gotten more not sports

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because I feel like I'm more knowledgeable and a chair, Darth Brizzo, from from Instagram.

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I really picked his brain on researching a lot of the stuff before I bought it.

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So, you know, without probably some of his guidance,

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I may have not have jumped in the non sports pool in the way I did.

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So, and now I'm looking for more stuff.

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There's Christopher Walkins first card, which by the way is a 1953,

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get ready moment. That's right, Bowman, Bowman, baseball, but it's not baseball.

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They did a TV stars addition in 1953.

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And he was known as Ronnie Walkin, which is his actual given his real name is Ronnie,

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Christopher Walkin. He then changed it to Christopher.

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But on this card, it's Ronnie Walkin and he's a 12 year old kid.

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And if you didn't know, you might not know now, you know.

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So, I've gotten it. Not sports is not sports is, that's my new rap song.

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I was not saying now, I'm not sure what I know, but I didn't know before now, I know it.

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So, not sports is something I've sort of done at 180 on.

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And I'm not regretting it. I honestly wish I did it sooner, because somebody's cards that I've had to acquire would have been a lot cheaper

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and I've done it soon, but let's never too late, right? And so that's the first one I'm going to talk about my list.

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So, what, what, what, what's one you're going to throw out there for yourself?

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Well, for me, and I want to make sure I'm clear about this. I've always liked autographs,

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but I never used to get autographs actually on baseball cards.

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For some reason, I don't know, mentally I didn't like having the autograph on the card.

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I came from the manufacturer. I've turned to total 180 on that. I love autographs now. I love people who do a TTM.

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I absolutely will buy slabs autograph cards and thoroughly enjoy it.

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That is something where I've pulled a full 180.

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I think the combination of the appreciation for the card itself plus the athlete and the autograph.

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To me, just, it's a better package than I used to give a card at four. I think before I felt it was taken away from the card maybe.

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And now I feel different. Now I do the whole package better. And a lot of times I like the autograph card more than maybe a generic autograph baseball.

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That's not from the time period where we're a player play. You know, having a guy from the 50 sign a ball with commissioner ceiling on it.

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It loses something, but having them sign their actual baseball card is a little bit more personal for me.

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So that's one where I've pulled a 180.

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Yeah. Yeah. And so I haven't changed because I don't have a problem with sign baseball cards, but piggyback and off that day.

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And I will say this back in the day. It was kind of sacrilegious. Now it's like a huge deal as you very well know.

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But back in the day, it was sacrilegious to get a rookie card sign. It was almost considered ruining the rookie card.

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You're writing on the rookie card. If you grade it, it's going to, you know, get ding for having pen or Sharpie on it. And now we know that's a big business now is graded signed rookie cards, right?

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It's huge.

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It's huge.

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There's dealers at shows that that's all there inventory is. But back in the day, I remember even when I was going to the ball park to get like autograph card sign.

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Unless it was a rookie that that was the only card they had at the moment. I would always go with a second year card to get signed. So if they're rookie was 89, I would bring 1990 edition cards.

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If it was 89 and that was all they had, then yes, I would have rookie card sign.

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I wonder if that's, you know, you and I collected it and started young not too far apart. I wonder if that was a generational thing.

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I've heard his funny buddy else who's older than they want to admit a group thinking you don't sign rookie cards. You don't sign cards as much.

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Well, I can tell you in the high be back then. I'm not talking now. So if anyone's listening, remember we're going back to the 80s here.

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I made the ladies and I'm not saying people didn't do it.

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It was just sort of frowned upon like, oh man, don't get to your rookie card, what are you doing?

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And now I see huge market and I think rightfully so it's kind of cool now when you think about it.

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But back then it's a lot of things when you compare errors to, right?

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Back then if you would have told me, you know, 20 years later, 30 years later, you would be paying someone else to open your pack on screen.

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Green for you, right?

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And then to have the card set to you, I would have thought you're crazy.

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Heck, I didn't even want my friends open in my packs that were mine right next to me.

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Like get your own packs, right?

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Get off my lawn, get off my packs by your own.

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Or you opened all yours.

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I just haven't finished opening mine.

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You opened them too quick.

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But you know, that same person has bought into breaks and what someone else opened, you know, packs on screen.

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Where I'm, you know, I might get someone else card.

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You would have told me then that that would have been would be a thing 30 years and now I thought I would have thought you crazy.

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Another thing I've already changed my mind on is grading itself when grading first came out.

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Dan Abs had this on my show.

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I thought it was the money grab and a gimmick.

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It's probably some people still would say that for some companies.

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I'm not one of them anymore.

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I've done a complete one.

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But that's not a recent one.

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So that's why I mentioned it, but it's not one of my three because it's,

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I've changed quite a bit of go.

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So that's not a new revelation, but that's your.

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You know, that's just an example of changing your mind.

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Okay, little housekeeping here.

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I want to thank everybody who is tuning in from a fairly Dickinson upsetting Purdue.

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That's a final 16 over one in the NCAA tournament.

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We are live every other Friday night.

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We got a hello from contender sports cards, evening fellas.

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We also have a hello from a league of her own.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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And I just want to thank you.

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Hello John and Danny.

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Hello back at you.

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And then actually I thought this was an interesting comment for decades card designs included

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effects in the list signature.

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So apparently designer slash producers of cards thought the cards look better with an autograph

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on it.

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Well, I'll say I thought some years looked better than others.

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I didn't think it was consistently good or bad.

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I always thought it was, it had to do it more with the overall estate.

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But that's a great.

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Yeah, that was from do effects of life.

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Yeah.

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I made to get signed.

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Right.

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I mean that's that's sort of one of the intense.

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Right.

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I mean my dad, you know, told me stories back where he was going to be.

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I mean, my Dad, you know, told me stories back where he was going to be.

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I mean, he would day with some sometimes the cards would get a sign.

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That in the same probably way today where you go to a game.

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Right.

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And the autographs, they got like books with the cards.

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Or they just pulled out a page and it's all that one guy in the hand, the guy in the book.

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A lot of times a player will say, listen, I'm only signing one of these.

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I got to get everybody, right?

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But they least try, right?

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It's a different ever when it comes to autographs.

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I mean, back in the 40s and 50s autographs were like, hey, I this is my favorite player.

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This is my favorite team.

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This is for me.

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Now we know some of there was no eBay in, you know, 1956.

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So we'll do that.

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It's a different ever.

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I was going to say that's called a professional tease.

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John, do you have anything else on your list of things that have changed your mind?

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Yeah.

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So listen, you know, love me or don't love me.

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You know, I'm a straight shooter.

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I'm an honest guy.

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And this one might shock somebody, right?

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Most people have heard me talk about PWCC at different times on the show with some of the alleged past

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discretion and things that happened, right?

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And I think I, I may have even said, you know, they'll never be someone I do business with.

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But I had just to crack on the show about a year and a half ago, two years ago.

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And I've gotten to know him, a metamorphone, talking about person.

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Really good guy.

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And so I've softened my stance in a couple weeks ago as you well know, Danny.

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I made a purchase on a PWCC auction.

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And I didn't have the, I've only bought one card.

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I wanted you know, the sound like a lawyer defending myself here.

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I only bought one card.

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It was a griffy hot gloves from back in the, the ultra day.

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So when it was 90 inserts, cuff inserts in.

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I didn't want to, you know, but when only own in one card, I didn't want to deal with all the

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the pay to ship it.

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I didn't, I didn't necessarily need this.

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Not a card.

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That's going to go out my showcase necessarily.

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So I have a PWCC.

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See, vault.

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I guess now.

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Wow.

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Does it even tell me that?

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Oh, this one with this one card in it.

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So listen, nothing's come.

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I'll say this, you know, it's been years since we've heard anything negative.

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Everything else prior while I may believe it to be some truths.

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Where does, you know, where does smoke this fire that sort of thing?

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They've apparently, you know, whether it's scared straight or whatever the case may be.

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They've cleaned up their rack.

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I haven't heard anything even in the whispers that don't always make it to airwaves.

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I haven't heard any more negative stuff.

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And so, you know, if the feds are not going to charge them and they've cleaned up their rack.

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And I've gotten to know someone who's very high up there who actually,

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frankly, was hired after those things apparently or allegedly went down.

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I'm going to turn the page and I did buy something on the PWC.

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I want to read that, John Miles.

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Yeah, contenders fourth cards and Instagram.

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He says, I change my mind on selling cards raw as opposed to grading them first to resell.

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Yeah, and listen, I'll back that I've, I've sell both graded in raw cards.

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The only, the only bad, don't want to say bad.

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Maybe that's not the right terminology.

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The only rescue take with selling a raw card, right?

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If it's not in person, obviously, is the old switch arousey, right?

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You said, I'm just going to make up a card, right?

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You sell a Steve Garvey rookie that's very good excellent and you, someone buys it and you send it to them.

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And they have a beat up Steve Garvey and they keep yours that you send them and they try to tell.

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eBay or whatever selling platform, hey, this is what he sent me.

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Look at this is not the card in the photo, right?

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What way to upgrade their raw card and get it for free, right?

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And listen, most people don't do that.

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I'm not trying to do that.

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Uncle John is not coming over to tell bedtime stories.

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Yeah, so, but it has happened.

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It's happened.

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It's happened to me.

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But you know, I want to get that.

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That's exactly why the next one on my list is I liked the online marketplaces now.

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For the authenticity guaranteed, is that make you feel any better?

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Sure, but it's not foolproof.

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I think we've seen one that we've seen some stories where even the eBay authenticity has

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authenticated something that turned out not to be the genuine artifact too.

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So, it's not 100% foolproof.

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We've seen listen, we all know this, right?

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We've seen graded card companies, grades, stuff that wasn't either the real

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McCoy or turned out to be altered or doctored or trimmed or rolled or vice,

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or whatever that was done to it.

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We've seen autograph authenticators there.

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They're usually pretty good.

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What we've even seen them, you know, certify something that turned out to be maybe a

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clubby signature or not even authentic.

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So, it's remember, people are human.

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Okay, so let me go to that disclaimer too.

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The stakes will happen nothing is a hundred percent full proven.

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I know I'm actually in the switch of Rusky, you know, 99% of people would not do that sort of thing.

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Right, but there is that one percent that's out there that if you cross paths,

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that's where you can get burned on a raw transaction.

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I sell raw cards too, contenders for it.

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So, I'm not saying you're wrong or it can't be done.

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I do it.

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But I'm saying that's the risk you're willing to take when when you do that.

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But I'm going to agree with you and say it's come so far in the last couple of years that I now

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feel much more comfortable that I have some sort of support behind me.

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I remember when PayPal dictated, you know, every eBay transaction,

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you know, you could just void it on PayPal and as a seller you'd really be really be screwed.

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And that didn't make me feel comfortable in either direction.

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And I didn't feel good as a buyer and I didn't feel good as a seller.

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So, one of the changes for me, one of the things that has changed my mind is I will now buy much more comfortably

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one online marketplaces that offer some sort of confidence.

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The quality of the images have gotten so much better.

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I think some of this is the technology.

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I mean, you know, when you and I were doing shows, I mean, you know,

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there was barely an internet much less a high resolution image that you could call up quickly.

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So, that's something I've definitely changed my mind on.

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And even though I go to as many card shows as I can as many, you know,

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card shops as I can, the vast majority of my transactions are still online.

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Yeah, and one, one pro tip to one taking pictures of your cards, folks, leave your feet out of it.

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They have nothing to do with the player depicted on the card.

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And believe me, it's not enhancing how good your card is or.

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And unless you're selling a restaurant in which case.

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Yeah, we're talking about restaurant and then that.

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But you know what, from a bottom or even fair, I'm not, you know.

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Another good one from a contender sports card changed my mind on reputable groups of matters as well.

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Used to think that used to think some of them switched down the grades, but hasn't been the case to this point.

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Yeah, no absolutely just, you know, having somebody you trust and having that relationship.

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I think I think I think absolutely does that and then.

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Branden Ryan PWCC BBC's e excuse me, a lot of letters there.

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Just a name a few acronyms that have shady dealings and are probably counting on people for getting about the past.

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Golden has made a career.

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Why?

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I'm laughing because he hit like the trifecta of doom right there, you know, with gomen,

365
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P. don't you see and I don't know who I don't think anyone got left out there.

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I think that was like that was like the Billy Joe we didn't start to fire like the whole.

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Just burned down the whole thing with that one.

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No, and he and Brendan's right, right, you know, listen, I bought a card up.

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And like, you know, I'm maning up to say, hey, I cross that line right I moon like,

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Graham that right member of field.

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I mean, you can't go back across that line and it's it's over.

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So I did that with PWCC, I've never won a golden auction.

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I think when I was trying to get my leaf Jackie, I did it out of few there,

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but didn't win it there.

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And be don't get me started with BBC.

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That's I just when you when you make some mistakes, they have it's, you know,

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I just don't know, you know, it's sort of, I guess a crap.

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Shoot, you know, like what is I have some boxes, Danny, have some boxes over there that are

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rep, I BBC. So I'm not being a hypocrite here, like does that wrapping and

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certification mean what it used to now boxes I have or not, I just.

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Yeah, so yeah, sure.

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Yeah, sure.

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Yeah, you know, but, but you know, I mean, what, you know, I don't know, just a

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definitely egg under face more than once.

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So, but you're right, but you're 100% right. I mean, part of this is reputation for

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every company, but, you know, like you said before, everybody's made mistakes.

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So the question is, is how many mistakes, what kind of mistakes and how do you handle

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those mistakes when it happens? And I think that's really what we're talking about.

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Like you said, PWCC, when they left eBay, you had a lot of new management,

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really came in and, you know, listen, I've just heard you say that with you and

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talk a lot of questions head on directly about the situation. So, and I know what

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wasn't just with you, you know, he's been consistent about that.

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And for full disclosure, I was more comfortable with PWCC before you were.

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And for even more full disclosure, you have lost more PWCC options in the last couple

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weeks than I realized. So you've really got the hang of, you've really got the hang on

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and you've got the hang on.

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And you've got the hang on.

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And you've got the hang on.

399
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And you've got the hang on.

400
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And you've got the hang on.

401
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And you've got the hang on.

402
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And you've got the hang on.

403
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And you've got the hang on.

404
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And you've got the hang on.

405
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And you've got the hang on.

406
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And you've got the hang on.

407
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And you've got the hang on.

408
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And you've got the hang on.

409
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And you've got the hang on.

410
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And you've got the hang on.

411
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And you've got the hang on.

412
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And you've got the hang on.

413
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And you've got the hang on.

414
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And you've got the hang on.

415
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And you've got the hang on.

416
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And you've got the hang on.

417
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And you've got the hang on.

418
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And you've got the hang on.

419
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And you've got the hang on.

420
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And you've got the hang on.

421
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And you've got the hang on.

422
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And you've got the hang on.

423
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And you've got the hang on.

424
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And you've got the hang on.

425
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And you've got the hang on.

426
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And you've got the hang on.

427
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And you've got the hang on.

428
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And you've got the hang on.

429
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And you've got the hang on.

430
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And you've got the hang on.

431
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And you've got the hang on.

432
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And you've got the hang on.

433
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And you've got the hang on.

434
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And you've got the hang on.

435
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And you've got the hang on.

436
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And you've got the hang on.

437
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And you've got the hang on.

438
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And I've got the hang on.

439
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And I've got the hang on.

440
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And I've got the hang on.

441
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And you've got the hang on.

442
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And you've got the hang on.

443
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And you've got the hang on.

444
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And you've got the hang on.

445
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And you've got the hang on.

446
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And you've got the hang on.

447
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And you've got the hang on.

448
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And you've got the hang on.

449
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And you've got the hang on.

450
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And you've got the hang on.

451
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And you've got the hang on.

452
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And you've got the hang on.

453
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And you've got the hang on.

454
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And you've got the hang on.

455
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And you've got the hang on.

456
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And you've got the hang on.

457
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And you've got the hang on.

458
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And you've got the hang on.

459
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And you've got the hang on.

460
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And you've got the hang on.

461
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And you've got the hang on.

462
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And you've got the hang on.

463
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And you've got the hang on.

464
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And you've got the hang on.

465
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,040
And you've got the hang on.

466
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,040
And you've got the hang on.

467
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,040
And you've got the hang on.

468
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,040
And you've got the hang on.

469
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,040
And you've got the hang on.

470
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,040
And you've got the hang on.

471
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,040
And you've got the hang on.

472
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,040
And you've got the hang on.

473
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,040
And you've got the hang on.

474
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,040
And you've got the hang on.

475
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,040
And you've got the hang on.

476
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,040
And you've got the hang on.

477
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,040
And you've got the hang on.

478
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,040
And you've got the hang on.

479
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,040
And you've got the hang on.

480
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,040
And you've got the hang on.

481
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,040
And you've got the hang on.

482
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,040
And you've got the hang on.

483
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,040
And you've got the hang on.

484
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,040
And you've got the hang on.

485
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,040
And you've got the hang on.

486
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,040
And you've got the hang on.

487
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,040
And you've got the hang on.

488
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,040
And you've got the hang on.

489
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,040
And nothing to see here.

490
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,040
We're wearing here.

491
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,040
We're turning to page.

492
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,040
We got new protocols.

493
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,040
You know, won't happen.

494
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,040
It didn't happen the first time.

495
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,040
And it's never going to happen again.

496
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,040
You know, so I could take that side of the coin.

497
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,040
But yeah, it takes some of the heat off.

498
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:57,040
You know, do do effects of like, so Gerado Gerado Gerado Gerado still get a

499
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,040
Corado.

500
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,040
Gerado Gerado Gerado Gerado.

501
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,040
I haven't seen him much lately.

502
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,040
So I don't know how much work he's been.

503
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,040
I think he's in the vault himself for it.

504
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,040
Yeah, I'm not saying he isn't working.

505
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,040
But he's nowhere in prime time.

506
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,040
Like he used to be.

507
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:16,040
And I got Gerado Gerado mixed up with Gerado Rico Sualve from MTV.

508
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,040
Oh, that was good.

509
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,040
Nice call.

510
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,040
The Rico Sualve.

511
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,040
If you don't know, look up Gerado on YouTube.

512
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,040
If you're not old enough to remember.

513
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,040
And while you're at it, look up right said Fred on to sexy.

514
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Just because if you're on YouTube, you might as well check it out.

515
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,040
Okay.

516
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,040
So we're here.

517
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:42,040
New management of BGS hasn't seemed changing.

518
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,040
Well, I'm just going to leave.

519
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,040
I'm just going to leave that at.

520
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,040
Let's see where the hobby is after the mid-collective.

521
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,040
I think a lot of companies.

522
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,040
Yeah, there's going to be a lot of announcements.

523
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:59,040
People are saving up some of the stuff they've already made decisions on for that event.

524
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,040
And that's become, you know, I've never been.

525
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,040
Yeah, at this point, but that's become sort of, you know, kind of like a mini national.

526
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:13,040
And we're a lot of corporate, a lot of networking and a lot of announcements during that event.

527
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,040
Well, I was looking forward to going.

528
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,040
I don't have airfare right now.

529
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,040
So I've got to go find me page.

530
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040
If anybody wants to send me the biggest.

531
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,040
Okay.

532
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,040
So do you have anything else in your list?

533
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,040
Yeah.

534
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,040
And yeah, we'll go through a quick.

535
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,040
I know we're running up a good way.

536
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

537
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

538
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

539
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

540
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

541
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

542
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

543
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

544
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

545
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

546
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

547
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

548
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

549
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

550
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

551
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

552
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

553
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

554
00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:00,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

555
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

556
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

557
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

558
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

559
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

560
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

561
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

562
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

563
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

564
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

565
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

566
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

567
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

568
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

569
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

570
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

571
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

572
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

573
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

574
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

575
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

576
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

577
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

578
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

579
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

580
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

581
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

582
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

583
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

584
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

585
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,040
I'm going to go through a good way.

586
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,040
I don't want to go to shows.

587
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,040
I don't want to travel to country and go to show.

588
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,040
That's where I've changed.

589
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:02,040
Probably the last few years where I just don't have any interest in going to a show every weekend.

590
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:08,040
Even doing the shows I do, I feel it more than I've ever had like the day after the show.

591
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,040
I'm a little beat up and so I'm getting old.

592
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,040
I'm passed by prime.

593
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,040
I give credit to those whether you're a content creator or just going to write a book.

594
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,040
I'm going to create a creator or just going around buying or selling.

595
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,040
You travel more for shows than I do.

596
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,040
I just don't have it in me.

597
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,040
I couldn't do it.

598
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040
Anyway, I could do that again.

599
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,040
It literally would have to be my job.

600
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,040
When I did that, when I mentioned that time, I did that.

601
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,040
I was full time in the hobby when I was doing.

602
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,040
I'm not now.

603
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,040
I sort of don't want to be.

604
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,040
I never say never.

605
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,040
But I don't.

606
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,040
I don't want to be somewhere else every week.

607
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,040
I want to be home sometimes.

608
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,040
Well, as somebody who works full time in the hobby, I'll pretend not to be insulted by that.

609
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040
But no, I'm sorry.

610
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,040
I'm sorry.

611
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,040
That's an awful hand joke, kids.

612
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,040
So I enjoy going to shows even for my downtime.

613
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,040
So maybe that makes me a total card nerd.

614
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,040
But if I wasn't working, I would still look for cards shows.

615
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,040
And as you know, I go to card shops every city.

616
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,040
I'm dealing with some family travel right now.

617
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,040
And any minute I get to a shop.

618
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,040
I try to hit as many local card shops as possible.

619
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,040
So for me, even on my downtime, I would be doing that anyway.

620
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,040
So you and I are a little bit different there.

621
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,040
I get energized walking into a shop.

622
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Now I don't set up as a deal.

623
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Man, that's the different.

624
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,040
It's a whole different type of work.

625
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Setting up as a deal is a long day.

626
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Or is a is a long day.

627
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,040
Or multiple longies.

628
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,040
Hello, everyone.

629
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,040
Lecture stream.

630
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,040
And so I don't know that I could do the setup, the breakdown,

631
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,040
and work the table myself all day or much less a multi-day show.

632
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,040
So there is a difference there.

633
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,040
But I can go to, I'll go to as many shows as I get to.

634
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,040
Plus, I don't like listen.

635
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,040
I don't like to drive like I used to.

636
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,040
Like I used to drive like four or five, six hours straight.

637
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,040
Don't even stop to use the restroom or get a drink and just go.

638
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,040
I can't do that anymore, man.

639
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,040
I get, again, I'm past my prime when it comes to certain things.

640
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,040
Right?

641
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,040
I want to have two hours.

642
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,040
You know, I'm like, hey, who's two is taking over.

643
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,040
There's no one else in the car.

644
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,040
Like, oh, you know, it's a trip I'm making by myself without my wife.

645
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:31,040
So, you know, I just don't have that stamina for driving for traveling.

646
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,040
You know, like I used to.

647
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,040
But I will say this.

648
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,040
I could go to all the details.

649
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,040
I am going out of state for a show in April details details.

650
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,040
Yep.

651
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:46,040
And as you know, I'm in the middle of driving five or six hours every day.

652
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,040
So, so I'm getting to the place where I'm starting to feel it a little bit.

653
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,040
But, you know, I will give a shout out to new balance.

654
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,040
If they want to send me free sneakers.

655
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,040
I now carry multiple new balances for every, every trip and every show.

656
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,040
So maybe that's my age.

657
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,040
All right, before we move on anything else.

658
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:12,040
I know we could probably list a hundred things because I think we had that more or less pretty well.

659
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Yeah, no, that's that.

660
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Those were the three things, you know, that at least are fairly recent.

661
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,040
I mean, we could go back in the archives, like you said, we could do two hours.

662
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,040
But we, we kept it to just sort of recent changes of heart.

663
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:32,040
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664
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665
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666
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668
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669
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670
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671
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672
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673
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674
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676
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677
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678
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679
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680
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681
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716
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,040
And we are going to come back to us.

717
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,040
And we are going to come back to us.

718
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,040
And we are going to come back to us.

719
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040
And we are going to come back to us.

720
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,040
And we are going to come back to us.

721
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,040
And we are going to come back to us.

722
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,040
And we are going to come back to us.

723
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,040
And we are going to come back to us.

724
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,040
And we are going to come back to us.

725
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,040
And we are going to come back to us.

726
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,040
And we are going to come back to us.

727
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,040
And we are going to come back to us.

728
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040
And we are going to come back to us.

729
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,040
And we are going to come back to us.

730
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,040
And we are going to come back to us.

731
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,040
And we are going to come back to us.

732
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,040
And we are going to come back to us.

733
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,040
And we are going to come back to us.

734
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,040
And we are going to come back to us.

735
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,040
And we are going to come back to us.

736
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,040
And we are going to come back to us.

737
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,040
And we are going to come back to us.

738
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,040
And we are going to come back to us.

739
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,040
And we are going to come back to us.

740
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,040
And we are going to come back to us.

741
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,040
And we are going to come back to us.

742
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,040
And we are going to come back to us.

743
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,040
And we are going to come back to us.

744
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,040
And we are going to come back to us.

745
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,040
And we are going to come back to us.

746
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,040
And we are going to come back to us.

747
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,040
And we are going to come back to us.

748
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,040
And we are going to come back to us.

749
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,040
And we are going to come back to us.

750
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,040
And we are going to come back to us.

751
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,040
And we are going to come back to us.

752
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,040
And we are going to come back to us.

753
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,040
And we are going to come back to us.

754
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,040
And we are going to come back to us.

755
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,040
And we are going to come back to us.

756
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,040
And we are going to come back to us.

757
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,040
And we are going to come back to us.

758
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,040
And we are going to come back to us.

759
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,040
And we are going to come back to us.

760
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,040
And we are going to come back to us.

761
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,040
And we are going to come back to us.

762
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,040
And we are going to come back to us.

763
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,040
And we are going to come back to us.

764
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,040
And we are going to come back to us.

765
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,040
And we are going to come back to us.

766
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,040
And we are going to come back to us.

767
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,040
And we are going to come back to us.

768
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,040
And we are going to come back to us.

769
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,040
And we are going to come back to us.

770
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,040
And we are going to come back to us.

771
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,040
And we are going to come back to us.

772
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,040
And we are going to come back to us.

773
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,040
And we are going to come back to us.

774
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,040
And we are going to come back to us.

775
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,040
And we are going to come back to us.

776
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,040
And we are going to come back to us.

777
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,040
And we are going to come back to us.

778
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,040
And we are going to come back to us.

779
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,040
And we are going to come back to us.

780
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040
And we are going to come back to us.

781
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,040
And we are going to come back to us.

782
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,040
And we are going to come back to us.

783
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,040
And we are going to come back to us.

784
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,040
And we are going to come back to us.

785
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,040
And we are going to come back to us.

786
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,040
And we are going to come back to us.

787
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,040
And we are going to come back to us.

788
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,040
And we are going to come back to us.

789
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,040
Well, I think the sides are made up by whichever company does the thing.

790
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,040
So maybe I shouldn't have said the right side that was probably terrible.

791
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,040
But I did have bailer also.

792
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,040
I did not have Texas.

793
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,040
I had market.

794
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,040
So maybe this, you know, just showing my age when market was a real powerhouse.

795
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,040
Or if you were a joint weight fan.

796
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,040
But I like bailer market to round out my funnel for.

797
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,040
And my last two.

798
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,040
And I know coach K is not there anymore.

799
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,040
But I like Duke.

800
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,040
I know they're the fifth seed.

801
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,040
I know they're not, you know, traditionally viewed right now.

802
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,040
What they, you know, or they're not viewed right now.

803
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,040
What they're traditionally viewed as when they're in the tournament.

804
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:52,040
But again, this, this, this, this tournament is so wide open.

805
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,040
That sort of an average Duke team could make the final four.

806
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,040
So they, they're my, my third team.

807
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,040
And then this team at some point, this team's going to win one.

808
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,040
Right.

809
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,040
We did, they're, you know, mid major, but they're always there highly successful.

810
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040
They just can't get over that final hump.

811
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,040
It could be could this be the year.

812
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,040
I got him in my final four, which they're not strangers to before.

813
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,040
And that's Gonzaga.

814
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,040
So I got Gonzaga, Texas bailer and Duke.

815
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,040
I think I like yours better.

816
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,040
Now that I've heard them.

817
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,040
So listen, this is the year I've watched the least amount.

818
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Maybe that's the trend.

819
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,040
I was better said.

820
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,040
That's the, that's the problem.

821
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,040
Maybe that's the answer.

822
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,040
All right.

823
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,040
Well, then we're not going to put any money on this.

824
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,040
This will just be a handshake.

825
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,040
I live in a legal gambling state.

826
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,040
So it's okay to talk.

827
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,040
Yeah, I do do now.

828
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,040
Yeah, exactly.

829
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,040
All right.

830
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Well, we've gone a little bit over, but this was too much fun not to.

831
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,040
And guys, please remember to not take our pictures.

832
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Yeah.

833
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:55,040
But if you do, and you win some money, email lots and we'll send you our pay valid.

834
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,040
100% legitimate.

835
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,040
John, say, say goodbye.

836
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,040
Goodbye.

837
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:08,040
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