Card Mensches E51 "Cards We Wished Would've Been Made"

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prices hi I'm Danny black and I'm John Newman welcome to card menes well hello

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slver to the card mentions family and uh welcome John Newman uh I think you're

half of this aren't you yeah but I I'm old so Penny Sever's new I'm old just my

name's Newman as I I tell kids in my classes well that that that's how we got Penny slaver we promised that we would

let you model every uh every episode it it cost us half the half the

money though um so buddy 51 episodes Area

51 I got I gotta come up with some kind of joke to the episode number right so

yeah it's crazy man and like you said you know I I know we've talked about this before over three calendar years

but the second year of doing it because this is every other week that would be

52 I guess Technic will be a year but thank you H just yeah just going through

Hodes Steven Orlando stooks Ruben again

um want to do a little bit of house cleaning uh a little behind the scenes I

should say you and I have been uh crossing paths I think it's been almost

two weeks since we've really sat down for an hour so yeah man well you're you're busy with SI collects and uh and

other things obviously that's not the only thing you do there's something else called hobby news

daily uh and and cards and family and

you know medical procedures and and all that stuff that I try to avoid when I

shouldn't probably but yes for for for all of you that want to know my

dedication to the show uh I I am uh I I

had my morning was spent ped out getting a colonoscopy and my evening spent

taking it in the rear uh card Menches so uh full circle yep it's

a full circle day um but if you're older than 45 I know um so we got an interesting

topic tonight I it's one we've talked about kind of like when we shop for cards or we've talked about cards in the

past there's one player specifically you've made the comment to me several times that you would wish this player

had a certain type of card um it is cards that were never made or cards that

we think should have been made um Barry thank you very much and there's a

there's a comment up from Jeff's C Journey who came home from the hospital just uh you know hope everything is is

okay and he's doing uh doing well so Jeff I'm sorry you're stuck with us but I hope you're

better take two take two of us and the doctor said take two of them and call

them in the morning uh I hope you're okay stooks okay um he

had a comment also Ruben says so seeing the title of tonight's show here's my list of of never

made never made cards 55 Bowman Clemente and kofax um 54 Bowman Aaron and Banks

83 tops traded manually we're off to a flying start here we haven't even given our list that's why I gotta say that

might be better than what's on my list that's a great list um you want to comment on it any of those cards yeah

you know it's funny you you don't think about something until someone else and

and Reuben really hits some out of the park there for sure like I know there's not a 1955 Bowman kofax but I didn't

remember that till reading Ruben's comment like I you know but you don't I

didn't think about it until it's like in front of your eyes and you're like damn it I forgot to write that one down so

that's the beauty of of these kind of shows and being interactive is you know

be like man I missed that one it actually can make you feel bad uh like hey I really dropped the ball on my list

uh but uh okay since you started with Jeff I'll

let you finish he said uh you know it was his wife and and and you know that

we look better than today's nurses must have been a bad day at the hospital that's I was about to say I wouldn't

trust that staff um he had apparently there was it was Helga and Olga

right were on the nurse rotation Hodes is 53 tops Ted Williams

well we that that that might that might cross over into one of mine um you uh

Orlando hits the nail on the head we're gonna hit some of these bigger categories Orlando yeah yeah he says you

know for the audio version I just want to read it wish they printed Negro League players playing cards in the US

all are for an issue uh yeah that's a rabbit hole that could be a couple

episodes in its own um and some some of these tops in like their current

products or their Ultra have done some of these cards like have made them like

cards that never were I don't count that like it's I'm talking about year of when

the the the set was so you know like so there tops made like a 1950 53 Williams

designed card in like a product as an insert or a parallel or I think they did

a series called they did it it was called a cards that never were that doesn't count I'm we're talking about

what should have been at the time of release not after not not we're not taking current players

and putting them in Old sets either yeah yeah so so that little little disclaimer

if if you will also Ruben I did not tie the back so enjoy that

um you know how they say I just want to say about the the Danny black game us

hospital gown you know people like when they get game used cards they like the multiple color colors or has dirt on it

or sometimes blood the football ones not in this case like if you get the Danny

black you know Hospital issued gown you you don't want any foreign substance uh

I I'm a wonderful patient I got no complaints I gave out a customer service

you know form and I got five stars from everybody there um you want to start

yeah let's start with one we just kind of uh talked about right um scratch and sniff patches Orlando says I can't

believe you started this I saw where this was headed I'm trying to steer the Titan well listen this is what the show

is all about it's more than just cardboard yes it is Chrome yes it is so

um well we talked about the Williams right he doesn't have a 52 tops either so we kind of we we can kind of lump

them in there right 52 and 53 tops head Willams now when this list can be long

with the card wars and the contract battles but it's fun to talk about it doesn't mean we can't talk about it

right can i s say that we can group Ted Williams as a category because you've

got the late 50s issues you know all so um I don't know how many people count

the Fleer issue is real exciting you know or or full funny you mention that

the Fleer the fle the Fleer uh Ted Williams basically set yeah either 57

cards or 60 I just had a gentleman on this last sug bulk sub not the whole set

but probably two-thirds of it which he he has the whole set but he he graded like the ones he thought were the best

shaped ones he did pretty well I mean with the exception of a card here and there he had some sevens and eights and

eight and a halfs and that's pretty good when you think about a set that's 85

years old uh now or wait let me do some 65 years old right that's uh getting an

eight and a half you know that's uh I mean not all of them but he did get a couple eight and a halfs a couple eights

so he did pretty well I thought that was kind of neat to to see also Shameless

plug Dan I got here's a card that was made I I left it out I going back in my

save this is not my card I wish it was my card but this was subbed on the last

SGC bulk sub I did came in this glare on it oh that's that's awesome so two um I

have permission from the owner of the car to use it on for social media

purposes um but there you go really cool you know even just holding holding the

card even though it's not mine you know I told the guy who I said the card you're lucky I'm an honest guy because I

might have left town um but I will say this there was I won't say the number you can look it up on the website there

was an upcharge on that card you think under under upcharge they have a

picture of that card yeah on I'm not I don't care I love SGC I hate upch

chargers and I've had these guys on on sports card Nation we've talked about it so I'm not going to we're not going to

go off on let me just say you know I've did a whole show almost on upch charges

so it's out there all right while while you were talking about upch charges the chat room is now bidding on that

mantle yeah I I don't I I actually found out I didn't ask but the the person um

told me what they have into it and he was hoping for a slightly higher than a two let me Ruben is bidding 6969 n

clearly uh clearly it's a heads up and down decision no that's that's that's because it was mandals last year

sure um okay so who who went was that was that me on Ted Williams I I no I

threw out the Williams I I'm gonna throw out um in general multiplayer cards for

their Ro did I did I lose you did I lose you no I'm hoping I'm back no I think

that was me Hall of Fame rookie cards where it's not single player I like single player rookie cards for Hall of

Famers um and you know you and I were just were just throwing out a couple but

Moler traml Rose Ryan sver um whoever else I'd love to see the chat room to

throw out names guys you wish had had a a single uh tops or you know or Bowman

uh card for their rookie card uh I'll throw Cal Ripken in there I know he's got the 82 tops traded and you know I

got to throw that out there um and I love and I actually like the tops traded

look um but Jeff Schneider and Bob Bonner on his rookie card to me does not

add any value um yes Jerry kman deserved a solo rookie

card you know we we could make a blanket statement and say any multiple any

multiple Hall of Fame rookie card it's too bad that person wasn't on his

individual Tim Reigns is on a trip yeah there's there's a lot um you know so we

almost could blanket statement it with that um I wrote on my list I actually

have Rose Ryan Siver bench and you know in some of these cases Dany as you well

know and the chat room well knows there's certain segment there's certain population of of the hobby that like

there's people who think the 69 bench is his rookie card there's people who think

you know the 68 uh Siver with the Gold Cup is a rookie card you know a lot of

people not a lot of people there are certain people think the 64 tops Rose is

that is his rookie card now they're great secondy year cards and that those have value especially in high grades as

well but they're not the rookie cards right just as many people confuse the 52

tops Bowman uh or 52 top card with the 51 Bowman Mana right I don't know how

many art professional articles I've read that said you know Mickey man's 1952

Tops rookie card no you know so and I'm I'm others know what I'm talking about

so so a lot of those secondy year cards kind of get mistaken uh for a rookie card so would have been nice if they

would have if they would have had a solo uh rookie I'm going to put a link in in

the uh group chat somebody wrote an article on uh the 89

Upper Deck griffy not being a true rookie yeah I I don't I'm not buying it

I didn't say you had to buy it I just thought it I thought it was an interesting conversation um okay so is

it your turn now uh what we yeah I think you mentioned the multi you know Miss

any players here Mario Wills okay yeah you what yeah it don't again they don't have to be Hall of Famer you know you

could you could just say hey I don't like a rookie card that have more than one guy on them can just say that

there's people who do like that and then you get one like the m and tro I think's really cool because they're both Hall of

Famers how many of those you know what I mean that that's might be a topic for the best multi rookie cards with like

talent wise and M and tro you don't think it brings it down having the other two guys on there it probably does but

I'm saying how many multi rookie cards have two Hall of Fame like kman and Ryan are good like kozman

was good but he's not a hall of well imagine if kozman imagine if kozman was Siver let's say that was Siver and Ryan

on the same rookie IM you know I know they're not in the same year so but what if it was you know what I mean like how

crazy would have that card been the Cher pool which uh is on one of my targets uh

to acquire those a rookie yep and and a couple people thrown that that out um

Larry it's never too late um so yes I think we agree um single player single

Hall of Famers who appear on multiplayer cards no bueno um for us and uh call

that a category yeah I don't hate them I would but listen I rather see a single

version of of that players as most people I think I think that's the consensus War Warren I'm feel certain

line I use the last thing that want I I use that in different scenarios not at

school though although there was a few times like it was on the I was almost

came out and I like I stopped it at the border let's just put it that way so H

yep the black Newman uh dual dual rookie Auto yeah and actually the only company

that will continue that's a card you don't as a duel you don't want it as a

single there's only one company that grades it now is hga oh wait they went

yeah all right uh your turn all right H this isn't really a year it's just you

know the 53 top Satchel Page which is an iconic card it would have been nice to

but it was at like he didn't pitch a ton more in the majors he was a late a late

getting there because of the Negro League so it kind of ties in the and would have been nice to see an earlier

Satchel Page you know uh more mainstream uh type card so um you know that's I

just kind of grew I just kind of set a player rather than than a year but uh you know even on that 53 cop yeah I mean

even on the 50 he looks like an old guy which he was at the time he was in his mid 40s I believe when that photo was

was uh used so it would have been to get you know readed sto's comment would have

been yeah yeah that's what I mean it would have been nice to have and those are great sets obviously so to have a

player of that ilk on those kind of iconic sets I mean imagine what that

card would go for if it if it really exists not that it's about value um but

that's part of you know you Cann not talk about it and act like it doesn't matter at all well real quick I threw

this in the chat room do you think more rookie cards would be worth or do you think rookie cards would be worth more

if they were single player versus multiplayer do you think Nolan Ryan would sell for more you asking me or you

asking the chat room or I asked the chat room and they didn't answer so I'm asking you because I'm care oh yeah I

think so I think so because especially if the other player I mean some of these

times you know this man some of times the other player who's on the card not in like the Ryan kuzman's case are guys

that never even really like they're stats are minimal if if anything at all they pan out whatsoever so you know I

you know they still have value obviously I mean I just bought a CRA rookie at the last National did you know wasn't super

cheap because you know Den on there you know but uh so I but I think there would

be a little more because you know just because that's that's the player that's the player is I I think a bad player I

don't want to say bad to make major you got to have talent a not significant player I think does drag it down not a

ton not a ton you're buying the rookie card of of the Hall of Famer just the other guy happens to be along for the

ride or other guys are sort of along for the ride um you know so yep um all right

I was just curious about that all right sorry where where were we before I reinterrogation

kind of blanket statement like just an earlier than the 503 top you know and and you know I think it was stooks that

said you know the the gouty or the you know the play ball you know someone else

mentioned along long so you know it would have been uh it would have been cool to have an earlier mainstream satch

n against the 53 tops which is what one of the most aesthetically pleasing looking cards quite frankly can we talk

about if we're talking about playing Day card can we talk about Babe Ruth I mean

no all right moving on no babe freaking Ruth could he have less cards for for

the greatest player ever for the you saying he should have more cards by himself is that more cards by himself

more playing Day cards and I know that it has to do with what was produced during his career I I I know I'm making

this up but but I wish that there was something you know in color with the Red

Sox or the Yankees you know something before the gouty for color

um of a mainstream set not and not a script card why do you do you have a theory as to why that's the case or not

necessary there wasn't there wasn't a you know National Distribution of mainstream sets it was the Strip Card

era yeah and and unfortunately um same thing you know with a lot of the early

guys if they didn't weren't in the tobacco sets there's very little I have

a I'm not not St I'm not knocking the exhibits but not my not my personal

thing yeah because and listen I used to hate the exhibit and then I I I warmed

up to and I I do like them now though the only problem is you know it's hard to tell when they were made there's

nothing on the backs um well some of them there are but you know they're

almost look like box bottom cards they're not but you know I used to hate the exhibits and and the older I get I

like them more and more each so there you go how how about a murderer's rard that would rock if they did it like the

Sluggers you know um in in 57 so I I I

just and you know I just st's killing me I can give you a checklist of years uh

from 39 to 66 yeah no I yeah there's absolutely when I first got in the hobby

as a young younger kid and then younger adult and I first found I heard about

strip cards and then I true story then I found out really what they meant when

they were talking about strip cards I initially I initially was kind of disappointed I was expecting something

else like I got I was expecting fast ball and I got the curve but then I learned how to hit the curve and then I

like strip cve what they actually were I like strip cards and I cannot lie um I

actually do but for Ruth I just think Ruth deserves a more classic card you

know there should I mean he does have he does have some it's not I got poster of

one over there but it's just it's not the same no I agree I stand by that and

and it's bab freaking Ruth so I just think it's but you are from Baltimore so

yeah as much as I'd like to think he's associated with Baltimore it's New York

um anyway yeah how about like Ruth I someone did it on one of the message board years ago I think they made like a

Ruth Garrick double you know the double header card they long it was cool looking the way they did it it was sharp

but like can you imagine something like that was legit oh absolutely I mean that's what I'd love

to see it all right your turn all right someone mentioned this so uh you know I

can't remember who so you have to give yourself credit but you know we talked about the Negro Leaguers and because

they weren't know allowed in the Major League Baseball um Josh Gibson right arguably maybe the greatest catcher to

ever play the position uh never made it you know to the the big leagues itself

um and not just catchers just talked about as one of the greats of baseball period not not even Pol position related

there's some that will tell you who played with him or against Beirut that

he was better than beiro you know it would have been nice to have like a

1933 you know sport Kings Josh Gibson or gy or play you know playball something

uh you know I know he has that um that what's that Cuban T I'm probably saying the name wrong I don't have it it's

crazy money I'll probably never own it would love Talos or something along

those lines so um but a mainstream like a tops or Bowman or a gouty or play you

know um just think about a c like that right I mean look even the even the even

the Cuban C that produces crazy money just imagine St agre with you and says

any playing Day cards yeah yeah no I for sure and and just because he's looked at

sort of in the same breath as as a bab um yep so um you know it would have been

it would have been nice and then you know with the recent uh decision by the

Hall of Fame new in baseball include those stats as Major League ones you know um even all the more so because he

he's now the record holder or close to the record holder in a lot of offensive

categories so um you know starting to get you know too late in a way but

starting to get credit that probably should mookie uh great comment Josh Gibson was 35 when he died in 1947 four

months before Jackie broke in if he had lived a few more years we may have had playing dayart uh

can you imagine you know if he had lived uh he might have broken the color barrier not Jackie he was he was you

know when that list when I think it you know when Branch Ricky was making that list of who was it going to be right he

was on there and if you read into it I mean he was just sort of a fiery guy

they you know the reason why you know listen I'll be honest I love Jackie Robinson as most people know but he he

wasn't necessarily the best per player on the list he was the best person to

handle what was going to come his way and that's where that decision uh came in so if history serves me right Josh

Gibson was on that list they just knew that he wasn't going to be able to hear

what he would hear and last and not respond and so and look it was tough for

Jackie too but that's why he's an icon is because he was able to do that and be

successful and be a Hall of Famer on the field so there was just other guys they

knew like it's it wasn't going to work at that time you know so I'm gonna piggy

back on that and just say um any Negro League card set would have been

fantastic um star after star you know Hall of Famer after Hall of Famer uh

Dylan uh didn't all the players want Irvin to be the first um a lot of them thought he he would have been the best

representation for the league um the the list Ranch Ricky had probably had five

to eight names on it so besides Jackie There Was You Know six to seven other

names andv Larry Doby yeah they just by process of elimination to their criteria

you know what it means it was all subjective and opinionated like these other guys won't won't be able to take

that sort of abuse and not react or respond or climb into the stands or run

you know after another player let and deservedly so but they just didn't want

you know if this was going to happen they had they had to be a successful you know that would have set back

integration more years if it didn't work out the way it did um STS I I did not

know that that's said some of the exhibits have players in Negro League uniforms that were airb yeah the Jackie

exhibit well um that one I know the Jack exhibits from his Monarch's uh playing

days and and just like stook said it doesn't say Mar archs but you can people

who know can tell by looking at at the you know the card that that's not a

during the Brooklyn Dodger Day so it was pre you know pre uh pre- Brooklyn the

Derby yep yeah all right my is it my turn or your turn uh I think it's your

turn I mentioned Josh Gibson okay I thought that uh sto said Jackie from

Montreal that the triaa team uh with it was edited from okay um my next one I

think would have saved the junk wax era what if autograph inserts would have started before the early 90s I wish

there would have been autograph inserts during junk wax we lost a generation of

players after vintage before the 90s s or the 2000s were there just were not

not inserts of autographs and if you're going to have over production and you

know I don't believe in fake you know limited you know editions and everything

else just throw some autographs in there would have been amazing to have Gwen and

Pucket and you know some of these guys now to look back and know that they would have had uh set issued autos and

it would still say think it would have saved the value of the junk wax era yeah I mean hindsight being 2020 by the way I

didn't know that the 80s probably more than Montreal Royals I had Montreal I

said marar I was thinking Montreal but uh yes slip of the tongue yeah as Monica

liny yeah once again I I yeah I wanted the Samy St Auto just for the mustache

no I'm talk I'm talking more 80s not 90s when I when I say that um and because to

me that would that would have been amazing what if the upper deck Griffey one had uh impact Autos mixed in what

would those go for they crazy um anyway so I would have I think that would have

saved junk wax that's my idea to have saved junk wack yeah that Gwenn did have some Autos uh during his yeah I remember

those yeah but I'm talking about if you would have had him 81 ear saying ear 83

84 you know the early 80s I don't need to sell the uh all right what you got

all right I'm G to put kind of two together and just for the sake of time right you know we can do that with we

can do this with a lot of guys right um J de magio cards from 1950 to 52 you

know Mickey man will no 1954 and 55 tops cards um you know so there was there was

50s cards with the whole get that contracts and and the war and stuff you

know guys were not always in every set and you had to like find out what set your favorite player was in you know

Stan usual same thing you know a lot of the stars um so you know Mano Mano and

dagio uh you know mid-50s for Mano earlier 50s for dagio um you know I

think demaggio's last card is like a burke Ross I think that's 52 like pling

sort of pling days or year after where the stats are on there is that 52 Burke Ross but he doesn't have like tops or

Bowman like in in the 50s and he he last year playing was 1951 so it wasn't like

he retired in 48 or 49 so it would have been nice to see a few more mainstream

dagos at the end Mano at the beginning no 54 55 tops card so I'll kind of I

know that's two different guys but they're both on the Yankees so I'll just for the sake of time too I'll we'll just

say one in one a and put them together and I'll take dagio and Monroe over

Kelsey and Swift yeah who I I don't know who lasts

longer might be a better question yeah fair enough um all right I have and this

is gonna be no surprise mberg played from 1923 through 1939 and he has like

four cards um yeah I he I he entered my he entered my train of thought he didn't

make my list but I can't argue with he did play like you said do years he just didn't wasn't a a great great player did

get hurt which kind of hurt his his star potential known for more as you well

know and most people known for more of the stuff off the field of of play um

and I think that's why obviously right had he been a guy that hit 20 30 home

runs back then a year but that's crazy he played 16 17 years and four cards no

he definitely should have more cards I I'm not here to argue that like if you play that many years like they some of

the guys they did make you know what I mean like they're definitely had scratchers so the fact that he doesn't

have more more cards I I won't argue I just think he didn't help his case with with stat like I and uh Dylan saying

more usual would have been awesome yeah Stam years will had the exact same amount of hits at home and away one of

my favorite that's called consistency yep uh how about Patrick Mahomes in a

Tigers uniform how many guys could you do that they did Brady in the uh Montreal yeah

but they did that you know this last year right so you know would imagine

they made a Brady card just made one not knowing he was goingon to beat Tom Brady

that's what I'm saying John Elway like John Elway is in 1984 on on Yankees minor league now it's a

minor league card but it's valuable because it's John El and the Yankees a

minor league Yankee form right so imagine if Brady would have had even like a minor league card before they

knew he was going to be obviously what he was in on the NFL side so that card

would be probably four figures you know absolutely all right what do you have I

got a couple more all right let's see what do I yeah I know you know Roberto Clemente died in 73 he has a 73 tops

card or you know or or I would have liked to seen you know they did a Ken

hubs kind of Memorial 62 top tops I would have liked to see you know a PO

like right you know after after the plane crash just the tops issued you know in Memorial card of Roberto clle

Clemente like as fast as they could do it in a set there was no tops now obviously um so you almost have that

like 73 tops is his last card but have a memorial uh you know a memorial in

memorium of Clemente you know I I think people search the 73 for the 73 tops because of

his last card but it would have been something to have like an in memorium card uh at be his last like you know

tops card at least at you know closer to his play days I'm gonna go slightly more

modern is that okay yeah um mariana rivera needs a different rookie card I

hate that card get rid of get rid of the khakis and the plates my my my you know

you greatest of all time looks like a bad Mall ad yeah but you're not you're

not adding the card you just want a different photo on the card I want a whole new card I just want them to start

over there's nothing appealing it'll still be 92 Bowman or are you saying don't make a 92 Bowman make a I'm saying

throw away 92 Bowman go back and make another one in 1992 they should have

never let that card out greatest reliever in history that card bothers you more than it bothers H you know I

can't stand it um I like it couple couple good couple good comments uh like

they did for campy um y yep didn't do a

they oh there you know that's I'm catching up here mson Clemente and

they've done these before like they did the the the the Ken hubs from the Cubs comes to mind uh you know the other one

they've done other a few other ones so um says did tops make mson Memorial card

in no they didn't they didn't the 79 is his last one so and ironically stook

says the 94 tops traded mer multiplayer rookie and it's like a buck

it's not I mean it's not really you know depends who you talk to most people

don't consider that 94s Gil Hodes uh mooki says his 1972 aachi uh deed April

2nd 1972 on the card so yeah it would have been nice to see you know a mson

and clment they sort of just kind of unfortunately kind of close their book and pay some respect in a in an issued

set right like hey because if you know if those planes don't crash they're both

their careers are still going post I I wonder if it had to do with uh you know

the the estate and the use of the image and yeah I don't know it's a good

question it's a good I don't know either but it would have been nice to see yeah all right I I said Mariano's PS it's

your turn all right this one's a little off the grid I I don't think this will be on too many other people's list when

I was doing my list earlier uh today I put this on there because I just didn't

want to be all chalk which I sometimes can be because it's easy to do right one

of my favorite baseball movies or movies just period is the natural and everyone

knows Robert Redford Roy Hobs right it would have been nice to see like a Topps

Roy Hobs card the year or the following year that movie came out where they made

whether they made it an insert card card or you know however they did or just

make it a regular base card make it the last card 792 you know what I mean I would have

loved to see a Roy cobs card during you know when the movie was was was out not

like 20 year you know like they made The Sandlot subset in like Heritage to one year but it was 20 years after the movie

right and the sand was not nearly as good well it depends who you talk to there's people that I mean I I like the

movie but the natural for me like I love that movie just you know being a

baseball kid and and baseball guy and he beat you know the Wonder Boy bat the the

hitting shots into the lights and and it raining down of phosphorous you know so

that movie like if I'm if I'm channel surfing I've seen that movie obviously double digit times if I'm channel

surfing I and I I run into that it don't matter what stage of the movie it's in

man we just got even uglier um what it doesn't even matter if the movie's almost over I'll stop and watch the rest

of it no matter what what part of the mov it's on so imagine like a Roy Hobs card for people who like the movie

anyway you know they did that they did that with Mr 300 and Tom celic and Frank

Thomas card that was Upper Deck but TOS has done stuff they made a George it's

very rare they made a George P the first president C were from his Yale playing

days that I would have been it would have been cool I know it's a fictional character played by Robert Redford but

imagine like a Roy Hobs card and when I say Roy Hobs they do it like as if he

was like real sure I mean it's a gimmicky card but with the premise like

if he actually was a real player um it'd be cool because then you get Robert

Redford to sign it and Robert Redford's cool so yeah um that that was off the grid that

was one of my Off the Grid picks I have a I like that one I thought you were GNA go more Off the Grid than that well I

got another one that is more Off the Grid than it I wait till well I've got

how about a Reggie Jackson in an Orioles uniform Reggie Jackson how long was he

there I know he played there that's entire season 1976 the whole year but a

77 Topps card is a Yan why is there got to be I I don't know the answer to that

what my understanding was is that he was already with the Yankees when they did the cards um and uh so they they wanted

to have the most upto-date information yeah what do you you know he played uh

134 games uh for the Orioles in 76 558

played appearances 500 at BS is he he's on the Orioles on the like on the some

of the uh like Oddball sets so like not on top no I know but he's like I have

like there's a 79 crane disc which are the round there's Pepsi disc they're all

the same photo and they just all something you'd never see today well they put out supposedly an unreleased

they call it I think an error card that has the Orioles p on him and has the

Orioles written in but there's different stories about why that wasn't released and what happens if anybody knows more

about the the Reggie with the Orioles and Yankees um in 76 and 77 I'd love to

know more about that um but he played a whole year in Baltimore and there's no card for it um so I'm GNA call BS on

Tops on that one yeah so there's your answer from Ruben that those remember when they did those team cards yep he's

in that he's in the team photo when I was a kid those team cards were I used

to rubber band my cards by teams we did and those team cards were on top so

that's how I knew what the team for sure what the team went the team cards were always different because they were always taken like in Spring training

yeah so you'd have the end of the season early in the season yeah by the end of the year it'd be like half half correct

yeah but no one knows because that mean the photo was so blurry it's not like

you could pick out your favorite player true that all right go ahead you you I feel like you're going really weird on

this one well I got two more one's really Off the Grid and one's not as much which one you want first or you

want me to save go off the reservation all right so everyone knows I love this

guy I'll try to do a little tease lean up to rather than blurt it out and this guy's a musician and he's played lots of

stadiums uh back in his Heyday and even still um and Yankee in Yankee in sha

Stadium he's played you you know more than once and uh multiple times he's a

baseball fan in his own right I would have loved to seen you know I know I

have his 1980 Panini Smash Hits I would have liked to seen a tops Billy Joel

card in one of their sets in the 90s or even the 80s I don't know if we would have got one in the 80s because he was

he was big but he he didn't really really get super huge you know where he probably would have been where tops

would even consider making a card so 1990 1990s Billy Joel cops issued card

rather than a panini smashit sticker which I love it's behind me and I love it um but a top that John Didn't Start

the Fire well the funny thing is you see people burning their junk wax eror cards

in the fire it would have been it would I wouldn't have signed up for this but it would have been interesting those

people burning those junk wax eror cards if there was a tops sply Joe card if

they would have made that car would have been into the fire and then technically he did Start the

Fire you see how I brought that like all the way back that's brought to you by Crown Royal it isn't it's gone oh well

done um here you go uh Stu says I have a burn comings uh from The Guess Who Pro

Set hockey card I've actually seen him sing the Canadian anthem at a hockey game go Christy Brinkley started the

fire yeah yeah she also put it out I was about to say Uptown Girl was which is by

the way not to make this Billy Joel night Ed card mentiones but Danny knows

this if you ask me what my least favorite Billy Joel song is that's the answer up top not a huge fan of that

song it's one I don't if I hear Billy s Billy Joel song on the radio I'm not changing it there's sometimes I'll keep

it ey and sometimes if it's Uptown Girl I'm just like I don't want to hear and I'll change a Billy Joel song so that'll

tell you what I think of is M bonus points for a shout out to Clark

Griswald um and Christy Brinkley all right um what's your last one you want

me to close it out yeah go go for all right I'll tease this one a little bit too just for suspense one he does have a

card the year I'm going to talk about but he doesn't have it in this line This release and this release is a four fig

box sealed now without him in it but had he been in this set it would it was his

rookie year it would have been his rookie so n how about a 93 finest right

the first year finest baseball we we know the refractors bring big money even

like common refractors because they're rare um imagine a Derek Jeter 1993

finest and then finest refractor you know we talk about the SP where which is a iconic card whether you I'm

not a huge Jeter guy but you can't argue you know with with the the foil and it's

hard to get a a super great grade on it but I I love 93 finest I try to pick

some up like when I can those refractor I mean you could have a Dave Holland refractor and it might cost you three

figures can you imagine and the stars are you know even bigger M can you

imagine if Derek Jeter your finest rookie refractor what the number you

know the amount those would go for so M knows Bobby Bia is a bad two bad

words to Mets fans and I I was I was hoping when Cohen bought the team he

would just pay out B and be done with it like just give him the rest of the contract so we don't have to have the

Bobby Bia day every year we can like take that off the calendar it's on my calendar but take it off everyone else's

that like to make fun of the Mets yeah I don't think they're allowed to pay him early without him renegotiating and

agreeing to it well listen he's not why does he gota be close to 60 years old

yeah it's like winning the lottery you can take the the the payments each year or you can just take the lump sum if I'm

Bobby B I'm calling up Cohen and say hey let's just work out a uh a deal on a

lump sum and buy out this yep and tomorrow morning on Hobby hotline it's Orlando Uncle Rich and somebody else uh

Adam Adam Palmer no I don't know who's the third one tomorrow it's Adam pmer I'm pretty it is Adam bmer I'm right

okay um that's a good TR I me just think I listen I don't like Derek Jeter that

much that would be a cool card I'll admit it would be a cool card I mean just think a 93 font a finest Derek

Jeter a refractor even a regular car like crazy mo crazy bucks not that it's

about like I love I know it's not about the I agree with you but that would be a cool looking card too um Jim Adam Palmer

no relation to Jim Palmer not sure about that I'd have to ask him no relation to

uh richin no relation to Richard Klein no who's much funnier by the

[Laughter] way he's a good comedian I like him no

but but rich rich our Rich client

is he's got that he's got that going for him and Rich we know you're going to listen to this we'll love you

buddy not anymore this will be the last episode that he listen Uncle Ridge has a better

card show he does absolutely all right well one card

mentions we should talk about that Uncle Rich ra helps raise money for charity with his card show that's a perfect

perfect yeah add at Chev I hope I'm saying that right but I'm pretty close not 100% um and listen that's it goes to

it goes to the synagogue it goes to charity and uh that you know anytime

anytime you can have the greatest Hobby in the world align with someone a charity that can benefit from it what

else do I have to exactly that's line by the way and I'm still going on with my

Billy Joe just subliminally now oh it'll be Billy Joel all weekend now without a

doubt uh well I can certainly say this has been a day my friend um but but it

finished up a lot of soft Rich does this a good comment from Ruben here just the

kind of coming out Rich Klein does have his own tops card that is true it is and

you can find it in the comc database Rick Rick Rich Richard Klein the

comedian I do not believe uh don't believe has a tops card but you know who

has one you know has a Bowman card Christopher Walkin as an 11 year old

it's so creepy you can look even as a kid you can tell that's Christopher Walkin his eyes just follow you Danny

look at me as a kid his eyes just follow you around the room Danny Danny let me I

was a goodlooking kid that's a really terrible uh

Christopher walk it's not the worst one you've ever done if that makes you feel better yeah a little bit um that's

that's hilarious wav Ruben says uh he's walking

on sunshine like Katrina in the wav more cowbell that's what what does this show

need more Cowell um that's that's hysterical uh

this was fun buddy yeah you know what I first was I'm like I don't know there's a lot of chalk in this question but then

I'm like as I start writing stuff down and look I missed some there was some great suggestions as as usual from the

chat room where like I feel bad I'm like how did I not write that you know what I mean like how did I miss that so that's

the beauty of of of these kind of shows is because you add to that list and you

you you know you realize like there as much as we might know there's a lot we still don't as we always or we forget

it's the best chat room uh anywhere as far as knowledge and humor and

everything else um looks too let's give him let's give them and good looks well

they have to make up for us you know so they look fantastic in the chat room

all right say good night John good night John [Music]

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