Card Mensches E5 Some of our Biggest Card Flops & Super Bowl picks

I'm Danny black and that's John Newman as you just heard and I want to thank
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you for joining us for uh episode five uh we got such a great response last
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time so just wanted to thank everybody who reached out I really appreciate the positive uh positive words uh today we
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want to thank uh waxat first of all our sponsors uh center stage and SGC so
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thank you to all of you for your support uh through the first four episodes in our fifth episode
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um and I want to talk about today's topic John and I were talking you know it's fun to flex in this industry and uh
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you know who doesn't like having cool cards and who doesn't like buying you know Hall of Fame players and
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I think we all want to think that we found something or discovered a player
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or got in early or you know something that you know we fall in love with somebody and we want to get a lot of it
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but let's be honest sometimes we swing and Miss sometimes we buy Cards and you
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know what's up Dylan hi double d uh and I'm going to turn this over to John
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because both of us have swung and missed plenty and we're going to share some of our some of our favorites uh tonight how
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you doing John good good I'm I'm hearing warm and sunny Syracuse uh 9 is 18. uh and outside and
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uh snowy and and super windy and so uh treacherous out there so uh uh glad to
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be inside glad to be here is your house heated
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it is but I like to dress the part yeah okay I wear you ever heard the
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expression you wear your emotions on your sleeves you're you're wearing 35 below windshield on your uh yeah I'm
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wearing the weather so yes you know
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um yeah you know every you know you watch hobby content you follow people in the
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hobby on social media right you tend to see everybody's oh I got a great deal
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check this card and that's great and we all do that but rarely do you does someone talk about when they took one on
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the chin right and got knocked out in the first round they just talk about uh The Knockouts they had and not the not
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the losses so you know we talk a lot off the air and so we we said let's do a show hey where we we bring a human
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element right we we don't always get it we don't always get it right and uh so
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I'm gonna I'm gonna I'll go first I guess and uh I think the first the only
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reason the only reason you're going first is you took like the Mount Rushmore of this category if if this
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category had a Jerry West logo uh of cards that people wanted to invest in
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and and maybe didn't get a good return on uh that this would be the the logo so
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so you got to start with uh with with this one yeah I'm a New York City kid
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I'm a Mets fan and this guy was going to be the next coming of Pete Rose uh you
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know you name you name the All-Star and and it was in the same sentence uh as as
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him and uh uh to have in my garage I've got three binders of this player all
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rookie cards front and and you know the nine pocket sheets they're double they're double stuff so there's cards on
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the front and back and I and you know these baseball binders get they're this thick that's three binders there's oh I
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know there's at least a thousand rookies of this guy and uh of of this one player
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yep one guy and you know to this day I know he didn't have the career uh where
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I'm teasing everyone here kind of dragging us out I know to this day didn't have the career that you know
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many thought myself included I still love them I still love them I actually had a conversation with them on Twitter
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recently I was hoping he followed the the show but he did it I still love him
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even that was all that being said uh besides and it's the like you said it probably is the poster boy and so it's
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uh this guy you all you have to do is see this card well I'm gonna get Jeffrey
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that's the great Jefferson this one signed this one is actually signed I'm gonna put the overlay on real quick so
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uh people can just see uh real quick if you're watching on YouTube this is
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the 89 tops Future Stars don't forget the Future Stars which was the greatest
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part Greg Jeffries because we all knew including tops that he was a future star
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and that is a psa9 because somebody had to have that graded and that's a new
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label that's my favorite part so this is somebody who didn't get a graded
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originally somebody not me I I just wanted to spell the rumors that I did
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this I I might have a thousand of this card but this particular card on screen is not mine
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so uh all right so let's do another one you gotta have the upper deck star rookie autographed so show us how far
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down this Wormhole you went and and what what Greg Jeffrey's collection super collection is not
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complete with an autographed ball right yep great job
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yeah man this guy he's swinging the bat underwater he he
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comes out he comes out strong uh at some early playoff success just a really good
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dude you know kind of a shorter guy just but hard nose plays hard and uh as a
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Mets guy man I was all in I I love this guy I caught this will tell you something Danny I'm I'm gonna put put
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myself right out there I don't cut newspaper articles out right I'm not that guy yeah I cut anything that has
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the suffering you've got you've got your own pressed clippings yeah but I don't like they're in a book
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they're in like a folder somewhere but I cut the Greg Jeffries I cut the Greg
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Jeffrey stuff out like I had so forget forget the three binders front and back of rookies I had another book that had
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all the the newspaper articles interviews
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um and I played around this time I was playing High School baseball too so you
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know I was kind of I I remember I was in I was in my high school pool with a with
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a with a metal bat swinging underwater and the swim this the the swim coach
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came in and said what are you doing I'm like I'm training like get out of there with a bat
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some crazy man I'm sure yeah but that's I was you know if I had
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a if I had a man crush for a current player at the time current player yeah
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it was Jeffrey's and I had the three binders of rookies I still have them so
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you know I cleaned out my garage a couple years ago and my wife said you got a lot of cards that you probably
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don't want can you go in there and see what you can get rid of and I got rid of
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a good amount of stuff but guess what's still in that on the Shelf there those three thousand a thousand gray Jeffries
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rookies uh more than a thousand I I couldn't I didn't have the heart to do it man it's still a part of me at what
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point did you say you know what I have 300 rookies not nearly enough
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this guy's still not hitting well let's get more well he did hit well he just got hurt
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like he uh he always hit pretty till the end the injuries kind of took their toe and and obviously his last few years it
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became a journey man he played on three or four different teams and and that was you know even when he left the Mets
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uh and he got traded which was a sad day let me tell you something I didn't cry but the tears were on the edge
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uh I still love them man like the team traded him he didn't sign in free agency
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they traded him to the Royals so I'm you know I'm not embarrassed I'm I'm
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an honest guy I'm a genuine guy I'm gonna put the Greg Jeffrey's stuff uh
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out there and uh yeah he he's my biggest here's the crazy thing he's probably my
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biggest swinger Miss Danny and and I'm not crushed about it like I still
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have the stuff and it is that you have an emotional connection to Grant like I like we part for this show and I didn't
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realize the depth of the emotional connection you have with Grant Jeffries
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minor league stuff anything he appeared on I I probably had I if you remember
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broders the the fugazi cards back in the day I even got Broder Greg Jeffries uh
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I've met him I've I've met him during his I met him in the minors when uh I I went
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to games and he was he hadn't been called up yet so I followed him very early on and got autographed did you
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walk around in a bathing suit swinging the bat underwater when you when you followed him
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you know no but uh here's the other thing I had I had a Greg Jeffries
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and I bought it I don't remember what I paid I had a Greg Jeffries game use bet
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on crap so it was still I don't know if someone's snuck it out of the locker room but I bought someone someone who
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knew I was a huge fan you're like John I I can get a a bat on crack you want
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them like you better believe I want it I don't have that anymore I will say that's the one thing I did sell and I I
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sold it probably for a couple hundred bucks uh you know so well I'm gonna move
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on from Greg if you're emotionally comfortable with that I feel a little sad now like we should have done a whole
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episode on Greg you move you're gonna move on from Greg I'm gonna stay right here you evidently have not moved on
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from Greg and it doesn't appear no I I I I I I I I just I don't know it's weird if you ask me why I couldn't give you
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like like a real set answer just something just gravitated to him
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it just looks like a ball player man yeah this card means something to you it does
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oh I will give you that all right so from Greg Jeffries your second choice
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was interesting because it's it's a slightly more modern player he's still playing he's still playing
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but he's not lived up to the hype in the building that he sort of you know kind
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of came in with and I'm sorry if you're in the chat and you have any names of people you've bought please throw them
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out there yeah I'm curious if we have similar ones or different ones but my next guy he's
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still in he's still in the you know he's still in the majors he kind of gets called up and down uh with with the
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Anaheim uh Angels or LA Angels now um and it's Joe Adele I've got like an
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800 count box over there of all like first Bowman's some autograph stuff I
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was a I was a big believer in in this guy uh when when I was reading Scotty reports listening to minor league
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podcast I bought in I said this guy's gonna be the next guy in the big leagues
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that's going to be a superstar and an All-Star every year gonna hit 30 40 home
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runs a year steal some bags make some plays uh you know in the Outfield with
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his glove and so far it's been not the case right I've been struggling and he
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looks right now kind of like a you know just a utility a utility man that can
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maybe pinch it he gets sent down he gets called up he probably needs definitely
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need to change his scenery maybe to have a shot somewhere else and kind of shake
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the cobwebs if you will uh you know someone will say well John he's only 27
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28 years old he you can't close the book fully and you're proud you you're not
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incorrect but he's had numerous chances I think there's still I think there is
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still a chance um
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let's be honest um I once bought 800 1990 tops Jeff
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ballards for 16. remember him Jeff Ballard was a left-handed pitcher and he won 18 games for the Orioles in 89 I
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believe so that would have been a fantastic purchase uh actually Roy Hopps
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29 send some of those over to me I I loved it might be in the burn power I I know I
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mean I haven't learned from any of this uh my downfall double d uh Dylan says my downfall was buying too much wax
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otherwise I have only ever bought vintage singles except for a few randoms and this year was some trouts well then
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you have learned much better uh Dylan than we have um because I am not that good
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uh yeah and you really think Joey has done I mean do you really seriously all
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kidding aside I think Joe Adele's done listen I hope not but I've watched enough of them and followed him
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obviously when you have an 800 count box of Bowman's Bowman crumbs Autos what's up
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you're gonna follow them and um you know uh
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I I'm hoping I'm hoping that you know the book is not closed but the body of work is not showing he's striking out I
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think at like a a 40 45 clip it's a high percentage it's it's
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it's a high it's a high strikeout rate where unless you're hitting a home run the other 50 of the time you're not
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going to be in the league very long and he's not really hitting a lot of the home runs either so he's he's not making
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contact not putting balls in play and he's not hitting the home runs as he was projected to when you put those two
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things together Danny as you know that's a recipe for not in the majors very long
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right uh so I'm I'm gonna give jodelle slightly more of a break than you are
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but I'm also holding out on Luis Robert and you know probably a lot of other
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guys I shouldn't hold on to um but yeah I I always rabbits
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he's playing good when I'm healthy I'm playing good and I haven't been healthy in 30 years so uh
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all right um now I know you had a much bigger list a couple other names you want to throw
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out quickly don't talk about it another guy another guy that I have a lot of
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stuff like over there kind of like it's taunting me over there on the Shelf
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um this guy you can I think you can close the book on he's I think he's on his fourth or fifth team now he when he
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gets when he plays he's batting under 200 uh I thought he was going to be the next great catcher in the major leagues
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uh and that was uh Francisco Mejia who was came up with you know was an
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Indian's Prospect and now has played for I don't know four or five teams he's
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doing the tour uh where he's gonna play for half the existing teams and just
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can't put it together um disappointing you know and now there's another catcher I'm not
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investing always on my Mets name Francisco uh that's supposed to be the
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next great catcher his last named Alvarez but I'm not you got catchers and
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pictures you got to be careful about and I know we're going to segue into your two you're going to break the rule that
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I make for myself which is don't buy a lot of pictures uh if you if you can
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avoid it so you just said one of the rules that I learned a long time ago and these are
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two of the players that helped me learn the world I didn't believe in the rule and when Todd Van Popple uh was coming
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up and his cards were coming out um and and here is the upper deck van Papa rookie let me tell you something I
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own more Todd Van Popple than I predicted um I had Todd Van Popple I had Todd Van
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Popple in every version you can imagine in every condition in every grade I mean
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well this was so this was pretty most of the grading but every condition you can have raw and I I I
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must have I was a dealer at the time I must have gone to every single show with
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50 to 100 van Popples in my case um I I absolutely was enthralled with
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him so uh unfortunately he had a long career um love his donor's card absolutely uh
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he he had a lot longer career Than People realize but I think it's safe to say he did not live up to the hype
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um and that and that's the swing and Miss for me um you know it he very nice career in
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fact Matt Wieters is another one I thought about putting up here um that was a swing and Miss but you
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know a solid career uh Ben McDonald that's right up your alley Danny from Baltimore I know Ben McDonald another
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guy who had a longer career than you realize but never never lived up to to the hype I mean he had a couple really
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nice seasons though yeah like Dominic straight a lot of strike breakouts like he he was on the he was on the the you
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know quick pass and then it just uh just didn't pan out you know well he's now a
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broadcaster and as he says back then they didn't worry about next year's shoulder they worried about today's game so you know I I I I understand that and
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he threw hard I remember him in college here with LSU that's true absolutely and he had all
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the pictures I mean he was he wasn't just fastball uh however other guys don't make it for
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different reasons and if you're young and you're drafted high and you're drafted by the Yankees and you end up in
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a bar and a fight breaks out you know you don't do Brian Taylor you don't join the bar
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fight uh Brian Taylor and I know he was defending a relative or whatever the
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story was but his career ended before it really got off the ground and he was he
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was supposed to be the next great High School arm I mean he he had an arm that
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was just touched from above and he was in New York I mean talk about a Marketplace you know to to have his
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stuff um and never never got anything out of it it hurt his arm in the fight it was
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just never the same picture again um I think I'm correct in saying he never made the majors uh no I I don't
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believe he did and you you know you look at that card I remember uh I had my
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store I would I had my store when this card uh you know came out when it was
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live and uh as I made a lot of sales of that card at a very high uh price and
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that was the card that a lot of people thought that kids were they were going to pay for their kids college fund with
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by stocking up on those and when that bar fight sort of doomed them there was
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a lot of disappointment uh not just on on in the Yankees organization with
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himself but a lot of people sit in the on a lot of Brian Taylor cards and he he
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was taught even before he was like he obviously never made the big leagues but he was talked about like he you know
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you talk about can't miss right people were just like he's gonna be the guy like it's no doubt and that really is
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what fueled that's what fueled the card sales you hear no doubt this guy is is
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Bob Gibson you know I've heard him compared at the time to Bob Gibson dominating type of stuff and
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um you know and it was New York don't understand yeah sure yeah and you had the Yankees and
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you know say we're kind of making you know being tongue-in-cheek about it but uh you know there's the human element
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too right like that you know this is probably was his dream and um one
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incident sort of ended it in a Flash I hate to say it like that but and that's
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that's crazy and I guess there's the lesson too Danny to be careful who you go all in on right and and you you did
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you used two pictures uh that's a rule I have but I will break my own Rule and
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I'll if I can talk about that real quick I've got a shoe box I've got a shoe box over there and one side is filled with
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all hunter green rookies and the other side is filled with all Kristen McKenzie
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rookies now they're both actually doing fairly well right now so that's good but
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that that could change just like with Brian Taylor right that could change you know hunter green actually struggled
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where he was walking people couldn't find the plate he kind of you worked with some some pitching coaches and and
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straighten that out but and what's what he doesn't revert back right John
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normally we save this until later when we give our opinions on football picks but after hearing your theory and what
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you just described welcome to the failure segment where John and Danny share their picks sure to go wrong
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I don't care what John says don't invest in pictures I'm holding out hope I'm
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holding out hope my break my bad luck streak will break with Mackenzie and
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hunter green so you're you're a hopeless romantic and uh I'm gonna get uh Greg Jeffries to uh I
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wonder if he does Cameo I can get him a cameo a message probably 10 bucks
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just a little more than what his rookie card costs what's going on so houses we're talking
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about a biggest swing and missed cards that we've had In Our Lifetime somebody
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uh tweeted me earlier today a great name Kevin Moss uh another Yankee why is it
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always the Yankees is it the the Yankee Market that builds them up well that's a tough place the lights are hot the
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lights are hot in New York right and that's pinstripe right I never bought I will say this I don't know about you but
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I sort of avoided the Kevin Moss Pratt fall I just I wasn't a Believer I I I
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kind of saw that one year where it was hitting home runs left and right as just
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an anomaly I said this guy's not legit he's just catching lightning in the bottle and anytime I pulled Hamas out of
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a pack it I was selling that I that one I'm gonna that one I'm gonna take the W on because I didn't keep any of those
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unlike the the other gentlemen we're we're talking about so I was I was
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moving masses as fast as as I could pull them and you know people forget he had a
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brother that was a player too Jason Moss so if you thought Kevin Moss didn't turn
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out well just see Jason was Jason was Jason Hamas also
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yeah yeah so what's hit or Moss he was a must and uh
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I will say this though he had a pretty good career like I you know he's not a
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Hall of Fame if you bought a lot of cards though yeah yeah you're right yeah but he
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wasn't like he was better than Joe Adele's on track to be I'll give I'll give Alvin Davis
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that much you know what I mean so well I'll admit that I uh bought a lot of
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Ryan Miner if that name rings a bell to anybody Ryan was a basketball player I
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believe in Oklahoma um and played baseball so he was a dual sport athlete guy was about six five
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power hitting third baseman and uh he was the one that was being groomed to
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replace Cal and uh on the day that Cal uh was going to end the streak and sit down they
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called Ryan Miner into the manager's office and said Ryan uh you're going to be starting in Third Base today Cal's
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not going to play Ryan takes a deep breath looks at the manager goes does cow know
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[Laughter] s if you ever Ryan minor story
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um however his cards uh Ron kettled there's another guy he won Rookie of the
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Year what 83 I believe and if you loaded up on his cards in 83 it was downhill from there yeah there was a time I
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remembered like his cards were bringing pretty good bucks when you sold them but again he's still very active on social
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media like he's a really good dude like if there was a hall of good dudes he'd
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be in it he's not gonna get in the Hall of Fame but if there was a hall of good dudes Ron kiddo might be a first ballot
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guy so absolutely Gabe Kepler here's another one yeah that dude you know what I
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remember about Gabe Kepler like the giant like Popeye arms kind of like you
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know coming out of his is I'm just gonna say he's a manager now obviously he
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looks a lot smaller than he did during his playing days that's all I'm gonna say well I will also say my wife finds
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him mildly attractive and and uh so we we we're not a big fan of Gabe Kepler
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that's the other guy besides Jeffries that could be the logo for swinging the
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miss you know there's so many if you want to go back though there's so many of them yeah you know yeah
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um but these are great names did you and it's funny how you forget about some of these guys till someone
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else brings them up like in the in the chat today which is great well the Jeff Dallas made me um remember Craig
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Worthington who was a third baseman with the Orioles who was supposed to be you know the next great third baseman
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um and in Baltimore that's saying a lot and and there's a reason nobody's heard of Craig Worthington
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um but I bought all of them I was ready for all his cards he was going to be the next Brooks
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but you want to pick a guy you want to but Steve Balboni he he hits a monster
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home runs though like he he should work out a lot his cards were never worth anything no no not really but when he
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hits a moonshots I remember watching you and like balls are still going somewhere or that they haven't landed I mean for
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him it was he he was going to strike out or he's going to hit a home run he struck out most of the time uh you know
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do we want to mention a guy like there's a guy I'm thinking about now now I don't have a lot of his stuff but everyone
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loves them I think the Bloom's coming a little bit off the Rose now but I just it isn't going to work for him it's it's
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O'Brien Hayes of the Pirates uh Charlie Hayes the Sun and and uh you know you
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look at what numbers he's pulling putting up which is is not great they paid him big money uh in Pittsburgh and
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all and then what does he do last year right he's guys are running around the bases and instead of covering his back
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bag he's putting sunflower seeds in his mouth and so he's a guy that a lot of
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people I know like and and put some money into and I just hope get out get
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out I don't understand this again the newer the newer guys you're ready to whack in like four or five years but
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great Jeffries you would still have start for them different error though man like people if we start this opening
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day for the Mets
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I think he's 53 54 years old right uh thankfully now listen if this was the
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willpon Mets if this was the willpod Mets error they probably would have signed him real cheap and then made a
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big announcement that's not going to happen thankfully in the Cohen error Universal DH
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to ignore our our picks as we talk a little Super Bowl here but uh real quick
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I got it throughout this is a great name Jerome Walton with the Cubs
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Walton cards uh I did have a I'm not gonna lie it's funny you forget about
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these these yeah because it's 1989 I'm 89 Bowman remember the 89 Bowman's when
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Bowman came back it was Griffey and Jerome I believe Jerome Walton was in I
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think he was also a 90 Donruss cop it was yeah I'm not sure but I had a lot of
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I wasn't necessarily buying him and stockpiling him I just seem to have always have a stack of Jerome Waltons
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and he had a great start to his career you know and uh it just again didn't
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didn't really uh didn't really uh pan out obviously so it's just that's why
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it's it's scary to you know you got to be so careful when you go all in on someone because we look
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at all the stories we talked and this guy's the list is way longer you know
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Dan Ryan uh Carlos Rodan seven United Hills you know he's still a great player well
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that's the whole point is sold it for seventy dollars uh probably could probably could do a lot better now
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he was almost the met I read so well and David claude's but yeah didn't quite
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make it there yeah a little before I was a kid or a very young kid but I do remember him he was I believe the number
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one pick uh in the draft out of high school which at that time was not
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necessarily very common and uh it's still he did play I mean he did make the
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majors and have a career but I think he had control issues
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um as and you know what as I found out tonight um you have control issues around Oreo
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cookies and this bothers me that you don't like Oreo cookies so I would like to put that on your
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swing and Miss list because you have swung and Miss on Oreo cookies not my favorite man I think the public needs to
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know the public needs it I'll admit it that when I did eat them when I was a kid I did what like a lot of little kids
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do right you separate the cookie and you you know with your teeth you take the
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cream out and a lot of times I wouldn't even eat the cookie I would throw those away or someone else in my family would
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would I'll eat I'll take it if you're not going to eat that I I don't know I just did not my favorite like will I eat
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them if they're around and there's nothing else and it's a snack I'll have one or two sort of just to remind myself
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why I'm not a big fan uh I just want everybody to know as you give advice and
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we talk about these important issues the lens of which this information is coming from this is a man who will turn down a
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double stuffed Oreo and we're about to tell you who to bet on for the Super Bowl so take take that for what it's
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worth uh we already played the warning please do not actually pay attention to any of our picks uh we have no actual
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talent or ability to know what's going to happen and have no guarantee that we can even log on correctly
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so that being said uh as we talked today and this is going to be our last show
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before the Super Bowl uh the spread seems to be holding almost a pickum here
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uh Philadelphia minus one and a half for Kansas City plus one and a half however you want to look at it uh I think a lot
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of that's going to do with the health of the quarterbacks how are you looking at the Super Bowl John
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it's a great matchup right I mean you got a young up and coming quarterback and Jalen hurts right that's uh
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surprising me I didn't think he was going to be uh this good and and then you got
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arguably what I think is the next great quarterback in the NFL Brady you know we
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talk about Brady just retiring like who does the torch get passed to it's I'm
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sorry we have breaking news this is important Hebrew Keebler El fudge
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cookies are one of my favorite uh one of my favorites and that's from Dr yes yes
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yeah I like those
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you can resume our show now I'm in I know uh you know we we talk
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about who's the next guy after Brady right it's probably not going to be another Tom Brady uh in terms of all the
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accolades and seven rings but I think the next guy is going to be uh Pat Mahomes I think he's going to have
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multiple uh Super Bowl rings when it's all said and done and when I say multiple I'm not only talking two I'm
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talking three four maybe even uh five just the place he makes he's he's one of
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the greatest quarterbacks I've ever seen play now I know there's guys from years ago that I've never saw you know at the
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time in live TV play but just sidearm falling down behind his back uh and just
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uh it doesn't make a ton of mistakes and uh you know I I think he's the best you
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know if there if the league was all redone and there was a draft a redraft and that no one was on any team I think
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Patrick Mahomes is the number one pick in that draft and so I feel like it's
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hard to pick against him I know he lost the Super Bowl the last time I believe you know he was he was in it two uh for
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mentioned uh Tom Brady but uh I don't know I I think it's going to be a good
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game uh Kansas City's the underdog here I'm gonna take him I'm gonna I'm gonna
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take him uh and get a point and a half I'm not saying the Eagles can't win this
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game but you got to pick someone right you can't I could say I'm not picking anyone but I'm gonna take the Chiefs uh
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I think the the couple weeks to prepare for the game uh he's gonna get even healthier uh you know you watch the game
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against the Bengals he was fairly mobile and moving around he had some runs if if
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anybody can see that was my analysis I was about to give I just want to get that on the record
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um the two the two-week Break um is is huge for my homes I agreed 100
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and if Jalen hurts does have a shoulder injury I don't think that heals as much in two weeks
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yeah I mean it's got I think it's gonna be a close I don't think it's gonna be a Super Bowl blowout much like the NFC
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Championship was where the Eagles ran uh the fourth string quarterback uh of the
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49ers out of the gym I don't think we see a game like that I hope we don't see a game like that those aren't really
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that fun uh uh to to watch Annie read you know you can make all the jokes
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about him you want but he's reading the menu card but the guy can coach football uh and he also can draw on players faces
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as we as we learned in those those commercials so he's good at drawing plays and he's good at drawing mustaches
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so uh yeah I agree with uh with Richard there
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um I I kind of like the fact that it's the Andy Reed Bowl he got knocked so much with
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McNabb for you know not not quite getting over the top and he's been ahead of the league offensively for years that
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I I think you know getting that one Super Bowl was good but I I think he he's still got uh something in him that
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wants to take out Philly I think Philly I was going to ask you that Danny do you think that playing your old team you
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used to coach and obviously it's like different players those aren't his players when I take my actual girlfriend
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out to dinner she pays every time now so I just was wondering is that
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something is he going to get now listen if you ain't getting geared up because it's the Super Bowl alone but is there
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going to be a little bit more on the line that it's his old team he used to coach uh I I I would think so I mean EG
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is emotions right I don't think you hold anything back in a Super Bowl no matter what I think anything else to win uh is
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gonna come out there so I'm actually going to take uh you know it's funny I've been on Philly all year but the
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more I I've thought about it I think I like Kansas City um but this one could go either way I
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reserve the right to change my mind check my Twitter feed five minutes before kickoff for my final answer we'll
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see how healthy everybody is pregame yeah I think if Philly wins this game
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Danny um it's going to be it's and they have a great defense they're gonna they're gonna need to come up big a turnover
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Force more homes in their turn over someone else coughs the ball up they're gonna need some help on the defensive
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side to to pull this game out uh I just think Kansas City you know is going to
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score some points uh you know it I don't know what the over and under is but uh I
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think it's going to be a decent I don't think it's gonna be a super high scoring game but I don't think it's going to be although it's going to be that that
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average it's funny I didn't I didn't grab the over under because I think that's going to change more with the
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quarterbacks yeah um I think I think the spread's gonna stay pretty close um but you know my bet on that is the as
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the one who puts together that's all right but uh if you're listening to this on audio it is on there and John cannot
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read it so uh just trust me I got it right um Super Bowl and Super Bowl MVP I'll
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catch you off guard I gotta go I I talked about him at nauseum uh I I think he's gonna be the
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difference uh in this game so I I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the Mahomes I think he's gonna I think when
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again when his career is over he's gonna have a couple Super Bowl MVPs and he's gonna have multiple rings and I think it
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you know he gets the second one uh with this Super Bowl and uh you know I I I'm
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gonna go in my homes uh with a dark horse candidate uh watch out for Travis Kelsey
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well I was going to take Travis Kelsey so um on my side of the screen
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on my side of the screen it's not a surprise it's not a sleeper um no I I think that my homes is going
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to be the easy choice but I I think they're going to give him a little bit of a hard time with that Philadelphia defense so I think Kelsey ends up
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bailing him out a couple times I could also see somebody like a JuJu Smith Schuster catching uh one deep uh and
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putting up some numbers Dan Ryan asked who has the stronger kicking game good
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question I will say this it's not the Dallas Cowboys I will take anybody named Chris Jones
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huge factor and a huge huge game breaker
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uh exactly yep yep yeah he's one of the few reasons I think
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Kansas City's defense stays in the game I will say this I think the Eagles
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defense is better overall than the Chiefs defense you know going defensive
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defense but I think Chris Jones is probably the best defensive player uh on the field right right there so uh he's
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gonna be he was disruptive he had burrow going backwards uh you know all day uh
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last week so uh that could be a big factor with Jalen hurts I'm sure that's going to be obviously the game plan
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Chris Jones you know put uh put take Jalen hurts off his off his Mark right
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get him moving or he doesn't want to be we're going to see if that shoulder is healthy pretty quick
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yeah yeah so well all right go ahead well we we're uh about to wrap up here
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uh we we went way over as we always do uh but I love the conversation uh this
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was one of my favorite ones if you guys have any other names of any swing and Miss uh hitters uh or cards you've
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bought please please DM us or you know put it in the chat in the comments
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afterwards because I love hearing the names yeah it and it brings you back right and
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it's funny when when Jerome Walton was mentioned I wasn't necessarily buying
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your own one but it brought me back to I had quite a bit of cure on one probably still somewhere and probably my garage
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there's a stack of Jerome's Waltons in in darkness there just sitting uh
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collecting dust and uh you know and it's funny you forget about those guys until
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someone else brings them up well maybe maybe it's appropriate we we finish uh
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on that note for the outro so uh for another edition of card mentions uh
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thanks for watching I'm Danny that's John have a good one I still love you Greg Jeffries
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