Card Mensches E22 80's & 90's Cards we still want!

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SPEAKER 1: Hey, I'm Danny Block and I'm John Newman.

SPEAKER 1: Welcome to Cars and I'm John Newman and I'm back, from playing hooky on episode 21. Listen, I, I got a last minute offer to go to the Savannah Be Ns game and, it was a hot ticket and so I went and I gotta be honest, it was, it was great. It was, they're like the Harlem Globetrotters of baseball and, had a good time and, the water.

SPEAKER 3: Would be a lot shorter and a lot wider.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah. Yeah. But, I was laughing out loud and that's not always easy to do so, but, it's episode 22. There's no Savannah Bananas game today. So I'm here. It's good to see, it's.

SPEAKER 3: Good to see where I rank.

SPEAKER 3: I'm right under, I'm, I'm right under a banana. It's good.

SPEAKER 1: To have you back. But listen, bananas are cool. Like a few people don't like, bananas, right? But, today's show, I think, well, I think it's gonna be in a few people's wheelhouses if I may be so bold eighties and nineties baseball cards you want to own. Right?

SPEAKER 1: I know a lot of people, you know, call it the junk wax era and, and, and it was like, you know, I don't think we can, you know, be disingenuous, but there's still some great cards of the eighties and nineties. I own some. Danny owns some you out there most likely own some too. We're, we're trying to pick five each but we're, as we always do, we cheat and, and we'll mention more than that.

SPEAKER 1: But, I, I'll list five and then we'll do, some honorable mentions and it's not really based on price. I mean, some cards on my list are expensive. Some cards on my list are, are not as expensive. And so it's not necessarily the five most expensive cards. I mean, there's some rare nineties inserts that are awesome.

SPEAKER 1: But, you know, I, I, I'm, those didn't make, my list. So, anything you wanna add there, Danny.

SPEAKER 3: Well, first of all, good to have you back. Ii I, I'm glad you got the VIP banana experience if you would have, if you would have, stood me up for an, a regular banana ticket that wouldn't have done good. But you were a VIP banana guest. So, with all you can eat food, I Can'T argue with that.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, it was all you can eat food, adult beverages. We're, we're, we're free. So, I mean, they come into town, maybe that was the first time ever here in Syracuse. I think they're coming back, next year, but it was the first time, here they wound up doing Cooperstown. A couple days after I did not go, to that, I came to, and listen, the stadium is literally almost walkable.

SPEAKER 1: So, it was a fun night and, you know, I'm back and, you know, ready to, talk some eighties and nineties, baseball cards. I think other people are, you know, that's, again right up, right up the alley for a lot of people our age and even a little bit younger, as well.

SPEAKER 3: And I just wanted to let people know if you're listening, to this when the podcast is released, I'm gonna try to read out the comments as they come.

SPEAKER 3: So if you hear me, just read random sentences, I'm reading the comments, because already there's a lot of good answers for stuff that people like on the eighties and nineties and I think we're gonna continue to get them, throughout the show. So I'm gonna try to get as many mentions as I can in as we go here. But if you're listening and.

SPEAKER 1: We're gonna, we're gonna, we're not gonna hit everything on your list. By all means, share, stuff, that you think, we either missed or haven't got to yet.

SPEAKER 1: And that sort of thing. So, we, we appreciate, appreciate that, right? Because we try to be interactive. So, that's what it's about.

SPEAKER 3: All right. Well, I guess that means that, we should take turns, talking about some cards here. Do you wanna talk, like, overall kind of your, or do you wanna get right into it?

SPEAKER 1: So I, I'm, my list is, is probably 60 40 eighties, over nineties, but it's close, it's close. You know, when I, when I was writing them down again, I, I threw value out of the equation. Now, some of these cards on my list have some value, but it doesn't have to be many of these cards that are on my list, especially in raw condition.

SPEAKER 1: You can still are very, very affordable. You could have, you could buy one tonight and have it by the middle of next week. If, if you bought them online, there's they're nothing. And that's what I think, you know, that's what I said. I I didn't want to less like rare nineties inserts because there's plenty of them and, and some awesome ones that everyone would like to know.

SPEAKER 1: You know, I I tried to make it cards that are fairly obtainable. There is a card that's not very obtainable that that's gonna make my honorable mention this. I felt like it's too iconic, not to mention but not a lot of people own it and it is expensive. So I put that that's a great comment.

SPEAKER 3: John Mil wants to know which Greg Jeffries card. Did you pitch on.

SPEAKER 1: All of them? All of them, you.

SPEAKER 3: Have them all. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER 1: You know. No one knows this yet. This is a five hour show just with Greg Jeffrey. It's another.

SPEAKER 3: It's another pump and dump on Greg Jeffries.

SPEAKER 1: No, no. You know, as much as I like, that's a great comment. I'm, I'm laughing.

SPEAKER 1: Jeffrey, I'm sorry to say no, you know, I tried to keep it real, while I like Greg Jeffries. Many people who thought they were putting their kids to college hungry. I didn't think that necessarily, but there were some other people that thought their kids were going to college on the backs of Greg Jeffries, rookie cards.

SPEAKER 1: Not, not as Lee corso would say, not so fast my friends, but, you know, none of them, none of them made the list. I think, you know, 89 taps, would, would be the Greg Jeffries card that I would pick.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, Dylan says Greg Jeffries will get hot against, any day. Now he's making a comeback, you know what he does? He even get, I was gonna say, does he even get invited to like, you know, Veterans Day or do they do any of that anymore?

SPEAKER 1: Like Old Timer day?

SPEAKER 3: Yeah. Old Timer's Day, Legends Day.

SPEAKER 1: Mets are gonna start doing that. So hopefully we, we see him back in, back in, you know, well, not back. He never played in City Field, but we see him up here in City Field. Yeah, that's the 89 tops. They're future stars, man. That was like the card. That was a great card, you know, just the stance.

SPEAKER 1: He's got his glove hand and his regular hand on his knee caps and yeah, yeah, so, so yeah, that's an iconic card. I mean if I put a Jeffrey card on this list, that would have been the one it didn't, you know, in all fairness. I'm sorry, Greg, I love you. Still, you didn't make the list but still in our hearts.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, that's the thing, you know, we have like, we all have a favorite band we sort of like, but it's not the, not the greatest but, you know, it doesn't rank, they're not going to the rock and Roll Hall Of Fame, but we still like them. That's where Greg Jeffries is you know, an equivalent to the cards.

SPEAKER 3: So Reuben says that Greg Jeffries got bumped for the whole time.

SPEAKER 1: He is like, like, I know, you know, he's not a Hall Of Famer by any stretch. He is beloved in New York because he's a native or, yeah, and, and he played for both the Yankees and Mets and he's a New York City guy and so he's a New York City legend. I mean, he's not a baseball legend.

SPEAKER 3: No, he's not. No, he's not.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, he, he really is.

SPEAKER 3: He's not a legend. He's not a New York City legend.

SPEAKER 1: He's a New York City legend. He's a.

SPEAKER 3: Bailly family legend.

SPEAKER 1: No, he's big in New York again.

SPEAKER 1: He's played for both New York.

SPEAKER 3: You're gonna compare him to Mantle and Sinatra. Come on. That's big.

SPEAKER 1: If you can make it there, you can make it, make it anywhere. Didn't you know that New York?

SPEAKER 3: New York?

SPEAKER 3: Ok. I'm gonna lose people if I keep singing and.

SPEAKER 1: And, yeah, and, and my, my, ok, now I'm, I, I was having sketchy, wireless there and I think, the, the internet heard me start to mention Frank Sinatra's lyrics and they're like, before he sings, let's take him out.

SPEAKER 3: So I'm getting, I'm getting corrected. He is from Jersey. But let's be honest, he, he owned New York for, for a while.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah. You know, most people I, like, I knew he's from Jersey, but I bet you a lot of people probably just assume he's from New York City because of New York. New York. You know, you know, it's the same reason people think Kiss is from Detroit.

SPEAKER 1: You know, the band Kiss, Detroit Rock City. Kiss is from Brooklyn and the Bronx. So, so, but everyone thinks they're from Detroit because they did Detroit Rock City, which I think sounded better than Brooklynn Rock City. I mean, just, it just Detroit, New York City.

SPEAKER 3: Simon and Garfunkel, in the song when they say, Joe DiMaggio when they sing that they wanted to use Mickey Mantle, but it didn't fit in the song.

SPEAKER 1: Is that really true? I'm not, I don't know that it is true.

SPEAKER 3: So, all right. So you ready, you ready to talk baseball cards?

SPEAKER 1: All right. Who's going first? I don't think it matters. I was just.

SPEAKER 3: About to say Mookie said he also sang about Chicago, but he's All Jersey baby. All right, Mookie, you have Sinatra. All right, I give, I give, I give, all right. So you, you wanna, you wanna go first?

SPEAKER 3: Because my general thought process was it, it was something, a card that's entertaining a card that reminds me of, of that period of my life. And, you know, or, or, or something that I wish I had that I, that, that I Can'T have that, that, that I've been chasing or wishing for since I was a kid.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, I, I'll go first because I'm pretty sure this card's on your list. I'll, I'll do a little build up here. This card, I was 17, when it came out. I didn't have a card store yet but I was doing shows and this thing, this was a card and this will probably give it away. But this was a card.

SPEAKER 1: Not only did people in the hobby chase, but people came into the hobby to chase. That's how iconic this card is. It still can be had, especially in in raw condition at reasonable prices. Some of the higher grades have went up in the last few years. There is no shortage of this car. This is not a, a rare short print.

SPEAKER 1: There was even rumors that, that by now, I think people figured it out that the company would this be the most granted card of all time? That and you know, it was rumored that upper deck printed, you know, usually the forms is, that's what they call the sheets, will have like a secret and not all the same cards.

SPEAKER 1: It was rumored upper deck because they knew the popularity actually started to print sheets of all this card. So, you know, these are not necessarily in a, in an exact order necessarily, but it's, it's got to be the, the 89 upper deck, Griffey Junior rookie and I, I must say that one. Hey, hey, hey, my Griffy is bigger than rookie.

SPEAKER 1: Mike Griffy is bigger than your Griffy.

SPEAKER 1: It's, it's, it's an iconic car. This brought people into the hobby, that weren't in it yet. How long they stayed? I don't know, maybe they're still here and that's, that's an awesome thing. But for being in the hobby as a seventeen-year-old kid, here's the crazy thing. The guy, the guy on this card at the time was only a year or two older than me. And, and he, and I was trying to pull him out of a pack.

SPEAKER 1: I played high school baseball at the time. I was no Griffey Junior, I think, that's safe to say. But, like, you know, you, I think if you're a baseball player, right? You, you, you dreamed of being a major league player and here was somebody taking the Hobby World by storm that was only a year or two older. You, you sort of felt sort of a kindred, you know, you know, connection, to this car.

SPEAKER 1: There's no shortage of these. This is not a, a short print card, quite, quite the opposite, but it's iconic, right? It's, it's, you know, upper decks first for a, it's card number one, it's a star rookie and it's the big close up and that Griffy, you know, the kids smile just, you know, I, my wife knows nothing about cars.

SPEAKER 1: She's not in the hobby. She know, you know, she's supportive of me. She knows about this car and she's not in the hobby and doesn't follow it. That's, that's, that's what I'm saying about this card. Even my wife knows like the significance of this card. My wife probably would think this is the most expensive card I, I own because she, it's probably the only one she like would recognize.

SPEAKER 3: It's not, but, you know, everyone's either owned one or, or pulled one, you know, you know, it's, it's, it there's a lot of people that think it, there's a lot of people that think they pose it was done as a, as a shout out to the 52 Mantle.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, I love, I listen. Anyone that follows, you know, either my show or the content knows I'm a sucker for acetate cards and big facial, close up rookie cards. Like there's a, there's, there's something about those, right?

SPEAKER 1: That's a hint to another one you might see here on this program, this is certainly.

SPEAKER 3: Iconic John's favorite word.

SPEAKER 1: So, and it is and I, I I'm not saying it's you know, it's not a 52 man or you know, so, but it's gotta be on, it's got to be on the list. I think, I think if you had 100 people in the hobby do the same list.

SPEAKER 1: Yes, it would probably be at least on 90 of those people's list list and shame on the 10 who didn't put it on there. That's all I, I'll, I'll all I'll say.

SPEAKER 3: Well, you and I did not talk in advance, which is why I had this ready for my list. So I'll just go ahead and say this, I had this on my list as well and I'm gonna second pretty much everything you said an iconic card for, for a generation.

SPEAKER 3: I just think it represents a really a time in the history of cards. And and the hobby where there was a real transition.

SPEAKER 3: What, what that card did, it really shook up the hobby, like, very few sets ever have.

SPEAKER 1: So, and, and Griffey Junior, the player himself, Danny too, the way he played the game and always, you know, smile on his face, you know, and, and, you know, let's be real. I know, we, I don't always like to talk about this but he played in an era where, you know, performance enhancing drugs became an issue, but yet he was never mentioned, in that group.

SPEAKER 1: And, and so when you look at his, his, his stats and, and know that he, he, he did that clean when a lot of other people weren't, they're even more impressive. I, I think he's still, and I, I know that sounds crazy.

SPEAKER 1: He's still an underrated player. He's in the Hall Of Fame, you know, he's revered by most. But I still think especially hobbywise a lot of his, like, I try to buy a lot of his stuff up when, when I kept, how much.

SPEAKER 3: Do you think, how much do you think the injuries hurt?

SPEAKER 1: You know, the worst thing I could say about him, he probably hung on at the end with, with the Reds when he kind of went, maybe not initially when he went to the Reds, but he played a couple of seasons there that were, you know, not Griffy junior type years, but he was in his forties. His career was not short. I mean, he, but his, but his.

SPEAKER 3: Peak wa wa wa wa was shortened by injury. And, and I think that, that, that adds to a little bit of his infamy is. We knew how great he was. We saw it and it left us wanting a little bit more, a little bit like Bo Jackson in that way.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree. Still, like, I always try to buy some of those tough nineties inserts when people bring them up. If they have a Griffy in there, I always try to get them because I still think they're, they're undervalued and it's one of the I Griffy is the kind of guy.

SPEAKER 1: Griffey Junior is the kind of guy I buy. And I don't care like if I resell it at a show, it's like if I sell it great. If not, I keep in this, this, this particular roque show that that's, that doesn't go to the shows with me that one stays here.

SPEAKER 3: So well, it, it actually I get it in and not is on my want list. So I'm I'm jealous. I'm jealous. It's a great card. It's iconic, but like you said, there's no shortage, which is probably why I haven't rushed out to get one because if you go on ebay, you can see about 1000 of them available. But I think I might have given away my next one. So you mind if I go ahead and go next?

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, go ahead. Well, that's the way we do it. So, go ahead.

SPEAKER 3: All right. Well, anybody who knows me knows I'm a big fan.

SPEAKER 3: You know, bow nose cards and, I, I just think this, this for me, was such a legendary card. The back has the, the, the bow, the bo the Royals blue and the Raiders black.

SPEAKER 3: Exactly or like exactly this just I actually the card is actually up there.

SPEAKER 3: It, it, to me is the poster on the wall that every kid had for a while. It was the peak of Bo Bo and bow at his peak was the might have been the greatest athlete I've ever seen live. I was lucky enough to be at the game of Memorial Stadium if you've ever seen the video of him running up the wall and down.

SPEAKER 3: I was there. It, it just absolutely unreal. So for me that card, even though it's not necessarily an expensive card, It, it, it, I I from the moment that card came out and it's 90 score I just, I've loved that card.

SPEAKER 1: 90 score. 5 67. That's how iconic that card is. I know the number, it's 567, I believe so.

SPEAKER 1: I know it's Bojack.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, and and it's yeah, it's, and I, I don't own this card, but I own it. I've owned it plenty of times, but that's how popular this card is. It just sells as quick as I put it out because it's not crazy expensive. It did get up there. I don't know if you remember this Danny during the, the COVID crescendo. I like to call it. That card was bringing like zoom in like that motorcycle that just went by my, my house.

SPEAKER 1: That thing zoomed up to like 40 50 bucks. Remember that? And and selling not, you know, and, you know, it's obviously come back down now but that card sells any time I get that and put it popping in the showcase. It doesn't stay in the case long, long because it's 10 to 20 bucks now.

SPEAKER 1: And, and, and it's one of those cards that people buy multiples of like, I've had people buy the card from me and like I have, I have like 10, these, I just, I just keep buying them. You know, when I seen them, I had like a lot of three or four of them last year at a show and a guy that's what the guy, he said, what do you do if I buy all four of them?

SPEAKER 1: And I gave him a deal and he goes, this is, I probably have 40 of these now, but I just love the car, buy them if I can get a deal. I'll buy them all day. I'll buy them all day long and this is by the way iconic, right?

SPEAKER 3: That's what I look like with my shirt off, I just want to be clear about that.

SPEAKER 1: If you have one of those vinyl Halloween costumes we used to wear when we were kids. Remember those old vinyl when you walk in? It's like, right? You weren't sneaking up on anybody. You get the, you get the mask with the rubber band that people could pull off your face and not back.

SPEAKER 1: It's how we snap it on the.

SPEAKER 3: Well, I got 12 year old twin boys. So we, you know, we we we still get this stuff every Halloween it's coming up. So I am so scared.

SPEAKER 3: All right, let me catch up on a couple of comments because the chat room has been great tonight guys. I apologize.

SPEAKER 3: 90 Leaf Thomas wasn't far behind 3d eighties.

SPEAKER 3: Score was everywhere back in the day. I used to buy them cheap and that was, I think Dylan was had on here. Score was freaking awesome. It, it was absolutely 3d eighties kids, my friends and I were more excited about that one. Talking about the Bo Jackson than the Leaf Thomas, the Leaf Thomas is another great card.

SPEAKER 3: Dylan talking to Orlando Orlando pointed out. It's the only black and white card in the set and Dylan, it's the only black and white card that, that I love ha ha ha.

SPEAKER 3: Our vintage friends talking.

SPEAKER 1: That Bo Jackson card. You know, I'm sure when other players like saw that card, they're like, man, I wish I could have a card like that. That, that, that was probably some player envy there too. Like they didn't have the physique bow had. So they say.

SPEAKER 3: Did you see those abs?

SPEAKER 1: Well, I hope so, man, dude was, you know, football and, and, and baseball player and good at both real quick story. I I'll and you might have heard this. So I tracked Deon Sanders was in town here. This is many moons ago when he was down with the Columbus Clippers and playing the Syracuse team.

SPEAKER 1: And I, I chased him down and tried to get an autograph and he had me come on the elevator with him. And so I'm on the elevator. It's me and Dion Sanders probably 92 maybe 91. And he says, hey, buddy, I'll sign your ball.

SPEAKER 1: But you gotta answer a question for me and here where I'm going up in the elevator with Dion and he says, and this is when him and, and be were kind of battling with commercials about who was the best two sport athlete athlete. And Deon looks at me and says, who is, who's better me or bo and I pause and I'm like, oh man, it's you, Deon. He signed the b it's right.

SPEAKER 1: It's, in this case, the s is a dollar sign Deon Sanders and the elevator gets off on his floor and he goes, hey, buddy, I, you gotta go back down and I'm like, thanks, thanks Mr Sanders. I'll see you later. Went back down and that Dion Sanders ball is, is back here.

SPEAKER 1: But the, you know, him and be had that thing where they wanted to be, you know, regarded as the best current two sport athlete. So I don't know what their, their real relationship was like or even if there was one, but I know that we're competitive in that regard where they, they wanted to be picked over the other one, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: Well, I mean, it's a, it's a great argument. You, you, you, I mean, wow, I could go either way on that.

SPEAKER 3: You guys get me through many days of work. Welding. I enjoy the content. Warren. We appreciate that.

SPEAKER 3: And Reuben John, that story was too legit to quit.

SPEAKER 3: I believe that was MC Hammer. But, that's, you know, the two.

SPEAKER 1: You know, Dion had that look. He had the, the Jerry curls and, and, and.

SPEAKER 3: The, and the parachute pants. Remember those?

SPEAKER 1: He had like a tracksuit on. He, I remember what he was wearing but he had like a tracksuit on. He was the last one off the bus. I think he, he, he waited a couple of minutes. He did. I was the only person there because I, I literally followed the little minibus to quality in. It was the quality in and he waited a couple of minutes. I think just to shake anyone that was waiting.

SPEAKER 1: And I like maybe a dummy, but maybe a smart guy. I don't know, I got a Deon Sanders at the end of the, I wait and then he come plotting off the bus, the mini bus and I'm like, Dion, can you sign one? And he kind of walked past and he weighed me like follow me and I'm I'm following Dion into this hotel. Like I'm wondering like I just, you know, where, where am I going? Is he gonna sign this thing?

SPEAKER 1: Is he gonna like tease me like and get to the door and say, oh you Can'T come in. Bye bye. You know I had no idea where this was going. I got on the elevator. He asked that question. I paused, answered, got the signature and back down and he said you gotta get out of here, buddy, see you later. And so that ball is that ball is still in that case right there. It's 30 it's I think 30 years old now.

SPEAKER 3: I only pay put attention to part of it. So you picked up Dion Sanders, went up to his room in an elevator. That's all I got. Yeah.

SPEAKER 1: And I woke up the next morning. You had a ball. That, that's all.

SPEAKER 3: That's Derek Jeter. That was Derek Jeter's.

SPEAKER 1: That, that was, that was a few years later, right?

SPEAKER 3: Meanwhile, a lot, a lot of fun chat, talk about MC Hammer was a, I believe a bat boy or a ball boy for the Oakland A's at one point.

SPEAKER 3: Yes, he was a fan of Dion and, those Falcons teams. That, that was, that was absolutely true.

SPEAKER 3: Jerry Glanville, he would leave two tickets for Elvis Presley at every game. That's a true story.

SPEAKER 1: That was, I had no idea that Jerry Glanville, Glanville was gonna be said tonight. That's that, that's, that's what you get with the show. You never know where we're going or the Jerry.

SPEAKER 3: Glanville very classically on card matches, right? A natural, a natural fit.

SPEAKER 3: Ok, I think we're back to cards. You, are you ready to go next?

SPEAKER 1: Yeah. All right. This one, this one's 1980. So it's right on the beginning of this eighties and nineties. We have the same one again, right? We, we probably do, man. But this card is, it's got to be on this list, man. This this gentleman is arguably one of the greatest players to play the game.

SPEAKER 1: He's not the greatest player, although I've heard a super fan try to convince me of that made a really compelling argument. But, you know, it's the 1980 tops. Ricky Henderson rookie. It's not the greatest card. It's kind of a distant sideway batting stance shot, but it's an iconic card, right?

SPEAKER 1: And everyone knows when they see this card that's Ricky's rookie. Ricky is a character in, in himself, right? Always going third person, Ricky don't like it. That Rick, you know, Ricky got 10, 10 year, 10 year, I got 20 years, the old, you know, 10 year story from the bus. This is a great day from Orlando.

SPEAKER 3: Ricky is the last player with one great, great fact.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, it is. And, and here's the other thing, Orlando, I think it's, oh, I, I've heard this be, it said and I kind of agree with it. It's, it's one of the last rookie cards you consider like from the vintage era.

SPEAKER 1: I, I've heard people say after the Rook Rickie East rookie year, 1980 tops, people don't consider that vintage anymore that, that's sort of like, you know, the Moonlight Gram line once you cross it, you're not in vintage anymore. I don't, you know, people might argue that won't argue against it. It kind of makes a little sense.

SPEAKER 1: Because what do we know what is one of the things about vintage cards? Right? Not, not all, not all of them, but the nice thing is you chasing one rookie card most of the time and, and like Orlando says that's that one.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, after that Henderson, right. It, you had at least three, most of the time, three choices, when Don Rosson and Fleer showed up, on the scene in, in 81. And, and so, you know, this, if, if Henderson's rookie was a year later, you'd, you'd have three choices to own a, a Henderson rookie.

SPEAKER 1: But you only have to get the, the 80 tops to have, the rookie card. So it's gotta be on there. I know it's sort of a, a layup to put it on the list, but because it is a lay up, that's why it probably should be on the list. But I do.

SPEAKER 3: Think, and it gets lost in between modern and vintage collectors.

SPEAKER 3: And, and I, and I think it's worth mentioning.

SPEAKER 3: It's a very expensive card in a high grade. It's a very hard time, high grade.

SPEAKER 1: It is if you don't get it in a high grade or you get it right. It's, yeah.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, it's even affordable rat. What I like to do with the Henderson Rookies when I can is buy them raw and, and then try to grade them and see, you know how they grade out. But, it's not an unobtainable card. It's not a short print again.

SPEAKER 1: And, much like the cards we've talked about, so far but it just, it's got about, a lot of reason.

SPEAKER 3: Well, and, and one of the reasons. It's the last single year is you. It was before we had Fleer and Rus and, everything else. So, you know, it, I, I'm gonna creep into 1982 when, when I go into mind and it's the exact opposite is, is where I'm headed. So, before I move on from Ricky is Ricky done with Ricky Ricky.

SPEAKER 1: Ricky. Ricky is done. But thanks, thanks God for putting that card on the list. Ricky liked that.

SPEAKER 3: Good night Warren. Enjoy Suits.

SPEAKER 3: It's a great show.

SPEAKER 1: I I I've never seen it but my kids in high school are talking about it. They're like, Mr Newman, you watch Suits. I'm like, no, they're like, oh man, you gotta watch that like, so it's, I've heard adults talk about it. Glowingly too. So apparently I gotta watch Suits is, is, I mean.

SPEAKER 3: Some people, say Mariano Rivera had last time on rookie in 92 Bowman, but it's laughable in, in appearance compared to 80 tops. Henderson. I was on a show the other day. I will say Mariana Rivera's Pleaded pants are still one of my favorite things in the history of baseball cards. I cannot buy a pair of Kha with pleats without thinking of Mariano Rivera pants.

SPEAKER 1: That whole set, that 92 Bowman set. You had Chipper Jones, in a golf shirt and shorts and and many other players, right? It was a different, you you weren't used to seeing the players on cards like that, maybe after the game when they shower clean up and, and make their way back onto the team bus.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, I thought that was really cool. I think 92 Bowman, could, you know, we could, we could honorable mention 92 Bowman just a product for doing something different, right.

SPEAKER 1: With those Cari Ramirez with, you know, with his arms folded in his head on his arms, right? In, in plain clothes, the Mariano Rivera, like you just show that card and people know what it is, right? And so that said, I opened a lot, I'll say this back in the, back in 92 I opened a lot of 92 Bowman.

SPEAKER 3: So Dylan says 92 Bowman.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, I, I know the cards aren't necessarily expensive now like they at one time they, they were, but this is still a, just an iconic set for doing stuff sort of different than what we were used to seeing, right?

SPEAKER 1: And which I thought was pretty neat.

SPEAKER 3: All right. Now, the least surprising thing in the world. Ca can I show my next one? Yeah, go ahead. People in the chat have already commented, they know I was gonna show a Ripkin. So I actually took the 82 tops, traded Ripkin.

SPEAKER 3: The three player Ripkin. And, and just the three player Ripkin was Bob Bonner. Jeff Schneider and Cal Ripkin. Jeff Schneider's birthday is actually wrong on the card. It's an uncorrected error.

SPEAKER 3: And I it, it, it's a great card. I like the single player rookie. I, I know there's an argument over whether the trade is a true rookie.

SPEAKER 3: But for me that single, the first single player Ripkin, from tops, it is just an all time classic. It's always had value. The production run was far less than the regular one until it says he knew I would pick the traded version.

SPEAKER 3: But I, I wanted to, this is where I'm gonna cheat.

SPEAKER 3: I, if I hit the powerball and we're pushing a billion dollars here.

SPEAKER 3: If I, if I hit the powerball, I'm going for the police insert, Charlotte Os Orange. It's, it's just my dream card. This was given out by the police. It was never sold at a team store.

SPEAKER 3: There was no way to buy it. The card's not even numbered.

SPEAKER 3: Just, just an absolute chase card and a go for me. But the, the they're, they're fortunate even if you can find them. So the least surprising thing in the world is that Danny picked Co Ripkin.

SPEAKER 1: So, which is why I didn't, I knew you were gonna cover it, for sure. And I'm not arguing. 82 taps traded that is the Ripkin to get, you know, no offense to the, the, the try rookie card. But there's, you know, you see those all over the place. I probably have five or six of them, here, some and that, that's a great card too.

SPEAKER 1: But to get, you know, the trader where it's just ripped in kind of more of a, a close up picture where he's got a bat in his hand as you just, illustrated. It's a card I don't have yet. You know, like PC graded a Hall Of Fame rookies. I, that's the one that, it's a great, yeah, that's the one that's on my list. I don't own it.

SPEAKER 1: Just yet. But, some, at some point I, I probably will but, it is a great card you don't see, I'm not saying it's short printed but the fact that it comes out of a traded set, you don't see a ton of them all the time. You gotta obviously break the set, to get the individual card. And so I think, I think, I know, I mean, that's.

SPEAKER 3: It's a set break. It's not a pack pole.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, I mean, we didn't really go over any sort of rules. So a couple of my honorable mentions here when, when we wrap it up will be like sets rather than, you know, kind of like what I said. The 92 Bowman should get an honorable mention as a, as a whole set for, for being like, I kind of kind of iconic and must.

SPEAKER 1: So, right. So, you know, that, that you know, the Ripkin is definitely when I, you know, especially if you a Ripkin fan, it's a standalone rookie. So, you know, I mean, I won't argue, I did put it on my list, but I won't argue with it.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, tough card to Fight Center. It's, it's Detroit is a tough card to find in high grade.

SPEAKER 3: In fact, tens are a very large population.

SPEAKER 3: So II I, I've dealt with them before and, and gosh, they're awesome when you can find a high grade. All right, Mr Newman, what do you have?

SPEAKER 1: All right. I, I don't have, I don't have one near me. I probably have one in the, in the box over there and I, I know, you know, we talk about doing it clean and we, you know, I gotta follow up a traded card with another traded card, right? And I don't have a picture but everyone, the eight six tops Barry Bonds traded just again another close up photo, you know, I, I'll say it, I don't like bonds, the person, right?

SPEAKER 1: Not a very nice guy. I think he was on gonna be a Hall Of Famer before he started using. Hgh. So I, I felt like he didn't need it. You know, my son likes to argue that he should be in the hall because he would have been in prior to usage and, and you know, but the 86 top traded bonds is, is on that. It's still, you know, forgotten a in the Hall Of Fame officially.

SPEAKER 1: It still sells very well. It's still an in demand card and, you know, it's out of the 86 releases. It's the, the most desired one. I mean, he has a clear update card, the rookies. But that, that one is the, you know, the one that everyone I get, it seems like every show.

SPEAKER 1: I get asked, if I have any and I don't, I might have one like just that doesn't make it to the show with me, but I don't have any in my show inventory at this point. I, I wanna.

SPEAKER 3: Get two points at all. I had a comments real quick if I can cut you, Dylan Dylan brought up a good point about the color matching we saw with the Henderson, we saw it with the Ripkin. I couldn't agree more. Just an absolute great point about the color matching on the card.

SPEAKER 3: How great it looks. And then, talking about the, the Tiffany version only 5000 printed, and we should make, I think we should make a comment in general about the Tiffany sets for a lot of the, the junk wax error.

SPEAKER 3: The Tiffany versions are very short printed, very desirable. There is value there and I think we can kind of group those as an honorable mention as a category of their own if you don't already have them as a group. But III I think that's something we should acknowledge.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, Tiffany that Tiffany Bones is definitely a car that always will sell. And if it's a high grade, you're gonna see it probably in a, an upper echelon auction, maybe like a heritage because it's gonna bring at least four figures usually.

SPEAKER 1: So, you know, I know Barnes is a sort of, a hot button player and, and even with myself. But, you know, any time I can grab an 86 tops traded at a, at a, at a reasonable price and deal, I, I do because still in demand and, and maybe someday he'll be in the hall. I, you know, maybe he's one of those guys that are gonna wait on, you know, till he passed away.

SPEAKER 1: I, I think they're gonna do that with Pete Rose. They're gonna wait to certain guys. You know, it sounds kind of cold. But, you know, and then sort of, I'll put him in then, but, Tiffany's singing in the mall. Yeah, I think we're alone now.

SPEAKER 1: That's all you're getting.

SPEAKER 3: Just you and Dion in an elevator. Is that what you were saying to him?

SPEAKER 1: Wow, that was quick witted. And then it took me a second there.

SPEAKER 1: It was just me and the, I'd like to.

SPEAKER 3: Throw out on the 86 traded set. The Bo Jackson also. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: I just think that's a, another classic card, from the eighties. Yeah, the eighties Knicks.

SPEAKER 1: Someone put in there the whole 86 traded set. Yeah, there's some, there's some other guys too that, are, are definitely worthy that that was, you know, there were a lot of dud pregnant sets in the eighties. The 86 was not on the list. That one.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, Reuben says II I just pictured as he saying that.

SPEAKER 1: Don't forget, don't forget my w during my W years, right?

SPEAKER 3: I could see you doing George Michael in a mall.

SPEAKER 3: You got options if it doesn't work out, you got options.

SPEAKER 3: Evidently suits is over.

SPEAKER 1: Welcome back that he had a fight with his wife. We always welcome with us. We're not gonna yell at you.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, that's funny.

SPEAKER 3: And Dylan says the 86 normal set was a dud for players.

SPEAKER 1: 86 caps. Regular set was, you know, now when I, I remember when it came out, I I was digging it and open plenty of that too as a 14 year old kid, but we're looking back at it now, you know, it's, it definitely didn't have much star power or rookie power. That's, that's where the, the traded set came in.

SPEAKER 3: Mookie says the 86 Bo Jackson tops trade is the same image as the 86 Duns, a rookie card. We're seeing the same pick on the tops and dun card. It's a great point.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, I don't know how that happens. Like usually they have like their own photographer so that I's a great like find out what happened.

SPEAKER 3: Somebody, yeah, if somebody knows the story behind that, put it in the chat or, or.

SPEAKER 1: Because you hear like companies themselves will use the same photo in like the next year's release. But it's like, you know, tops and taps are clear and clear again. But like, like, you know, he just pointed out, Mookie pointed out like those are two different companies. So I don't know how that, well.

SPEAKER 3: There are third party photography companies, you know, there used to be A P and up I and photo.

SPEAKER 1: But once you sell, once you sell the photo to a company, it don't take only, only, only if it's an exclusive sale.

SPEAKER 3: I'm curious if somebody knows the story. I'm curious, I don't know how it happened in this case.

SPEAKER 1: So we'll have to ask Rich Klein, maybe he knows the story. Mookie says his.

SPEAKER 3: Guess is that it was a Royals press issue and both companies were able to use a question.

SPEAKER 3: It's a good point.

SPEAKER 1: This is a good question.

SPEAKER 3: And Reuben says what about the sport flex, the sport flex cards, we should give a shout out to nice call Reuben.

SPEAKER 3: Those, those were awesome. We used to turn them, man.

SPEAKER 1: I miss, you know, talking about this, man, I miss some of that stuff. It's like you Can'T, you Can'T go home again.

SPEAKER 3: Now, are you, are you talking about?

SPEAKER 1: It's on my honorable mention list. It's on my list or if you wanna, if you, no Jose Jose and, and I don't know.

SPEAKER 1: But all right. Am I back? You're, you know, it's Jose.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, it, it's Jose. That card is iconic. I, I wish, you know, the ending for Jose was as good as the beginning, right? If that's a whole different card, if sort of Jose Canseco wasn't sort of a joke of himself and like he was a great player a mash here, we all know, you know, we don't have to rehash the story. Everyone knows.

SPEAKER 1: You know, especially if you, the hobby, you know, he kinda, he outed, everyone became sort of ostracized. You get the home run ball bouncing off his head over the wall like you, you know, for his match, which we can, we just give a moment to, you can, you can tell.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah. And where is that ball? Like who owns that thing now? I don't know. But I, I, you know, what, what.

SPEAKER 3: Rights of all time, nothing but it's great. It's a great story.

SPEAKER 3: John. John, you get a professional transition there and so I'm gonna take advantage of you flipping over there and I'm gonna pull up my next card if that's OK. Take my turn here.

SPEAKER 3: You mentioned Kinko and you we're talking about the Bash brothers and I think for, for the eighties, you gotta talk about the Maguire Olympic Tops.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, I miss this one. This one didn't make my list and, and, and it probably should have. So, I'm glad you, you, you, it didn't sneak by you, it snuck by me.

SPEAKER 3: And it's not a super expensive card. I mean, in high grade it's, there's a couple bucks. But, to me, to me it's, it, it's of a period and, you know, it's just, how many of those did I have back in the day? Oh, yes, I agree with you. Thank you, Orlando.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah, I mean, it just, it, it, it absolutely, just, you know, spoke to me as a card that I would still want. It's team USA, it's him coming out of college. I mean, he's, he looks like a baby.

SPEAKER 3: And there, there you go. So cheap. $20 for a PS A eight all day. Absolutely. So, let me just, I'm gonna throw it back up there one more time because it's also another color match.

SPEAKER 1: It is. It is, and is representing the, the country and in the Olympics. Right? And, you know, it's it's a, you know, it's also a card that's sparked some debate sometimes, Danny with like, is this the rookie or is it the 87 tops? People get really fired up about it. Wait, let me ask you this and anyone in the chat wants, is it, what's the rookie that, or the 87 tops? I think it's the Olympic card. I do too. I think a lot of.

SPEAKER 3: That, but call it an Xrc.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: Well, I know he was like Mr America. That's exactly how I feel. That mcguire card was on fire in 87 when he was breaking the home run record packs of 85 tops for going for five bucks a pop and just, you know, that was considered expensive back then.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, true.

SPEAKER 1: I I to me it's the 85 taps as the rookie. I know people who will say John, it's an Xrc. The 87 taps is, is the deal.

SPEAKER 1: I just say which one's worth, you know, I think, you know, when you look at the value, I think more people, you know, we were putting this up for a vote, I think 85 tops would win. But there's people who, who will argue to their last breath that 87 tops is, is the one.

SPEAKER 1: But you know, I'm, I'm an 85 tops. It did, that didn't make my list not because it shouldn't have I just, it, it slipped through the five hole on me to use a hockey, a hockey term.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah. And I'm with you, Mike. I don't think he's a Hall Of Famer. But I do love the card.

SPEAKER 3: And to me, the card just represents kind of that period in the mid-eighties. Before, before, before we realized that everybody we're talking about was.

SPEAKER 1: Ju and that card, Danny, they had different chase periods, right? Like when it came out, it was sort of chased. Then in 87 when he went off with the 49 home runs, people were backtracking chasing it. Then the home run chase with Sosa in 93 people went back against that. Things had like more lives than a cat.

SPEAKER 1: That card itself. So, you know, it's had, it's, it's like a roller coaster.

SPEAKER 1: It's here, it's here, it's here. So you and Mookie are on.

SPEAKER 3: The same page and, you know, I don't think he should be but does the veterans committee, does he get in the hall one day?

SPEAKER 1: I mean, you know, there's people, I don't know, I don't know. But I mean, there's people who will tell you that eventually all the steroid users that have Hall Of Fame numbers are gonna get in but they're gonna do it, you know, post hu humorously when they pass away, that's gonna be their punishment.

SPEAKER 1: Their family, police maybe can enjoy it, but they're gonna, they're not going to same thing I've heard with Pete Rose. I don't know if his validity in that, but that's what people said. So, do you.

SPEAKER 3: Wanna bet on what your Pete Rose lives to?

SPEAKER 1: I don't know. That guy is, he's probably gonna, I don't know. What's he in his eighties now?

SPEAKER 3: Is it wrong to gamble on Pete Rose?

SPEAKER 1: Can'T, we, Can'T, we bet on how old Pete Rose will live too.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: Mike Petty. He has the same chance as Palmero with the pointy fingers. People don't like liars. She was just told the truth. Yeah.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, that Palmero thing. I'll never forget that. Right. You know, like I did not, you know, use performance enhancing drugs and I like the next week it seemed like it came out, you know, Sammy Sosa forgot how to speak all of a sudden.

SPEAKER 1: That whole thing was like a, a train wreck in itself, you know.

SPEAKER 3: So, and I know we're gonna lose everybody to the whole conversation.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah, that is a good point. That's a good point that 3d, you know, there's some that, you know, and I love Mike Piazza but I, I don't know how long he used for but I, I believe he, he did. There's been reports.

SPEAKER 3: Berto Alamar has also been rumored and et cetera really?

SPEAKER 1: See, I didn't, I've never heard Roberto but like, yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER 3: He played in Baltimore for a little while and rumors, rumors, rumors.

SPEAKER 3: And I don't like to talk in rumors. Let's talk about, stuff that, that touches me this week before we leave.

SPEAKER 3: Rest in peace. Brooks Robinson. I got news for you guys.

SPEAKER 3: Not, not, not just as a baseball card conversation but as a person.

SPEAKER 3: And wife just Brooks Robinson was the quintessential gentleman.

SPEAKER 3: And I was lucky enough to meet him, plenty of times and he lived up to his reputation every single time.

SPEAKER 3: And, so I just want to give a shout out, and, to Brooks and, and thoughts and prayers with his family.

SPEAKER 3: All right, we're, we're on the home stretch, John. So I need your final cards and your, honorable mentions.

SPEAKER 1: All right, this is, I think the final card. And then I have some honorable mentions that I'll breeze through, but I kind of hinted at it before, right.

SPEAKER 1: You know, so Mick a lot like big butts and he couldn't lie.

SPEAKER 1: I like big facial, close up rookie cards and I cannot lie.

SPEAKER 1: Either, here's, here's another one that makes that list. The 84 down Manly card. 12 year old John Newman of Brooklyn, New York ripped, probably more 84 down than I could afford. Trying to pull these as many as these, as I could. This is one of my fav forget the, the, this card itself. This is one of my favorite car design of all time, the 84 those kind of three sweeping lines through it.

SPEAKER 1: You got a New York City kid. And while I was sort of off the Yankees bandwagon, I was still a Donny baseball kid. And this card, you know, this card was sort of like the 89 Albert Griffy before that. This was a chase card in 1984 you know, madly is kinda on that Hall Of Fame bubble. People think he should be in M VP candidate over those years. And others will argue that his career was not sure enough and he didn't win a ring.

SPEAKER 1: Crazy story. You know, they won the year before he made his debut. I'm pretty sure and he won, they won the year after he retired. This sort of terrible irony for Dany baseball to not get a ring. But one of the, you know, one of those guys, if you needed a hit, right? You wanted him in that batter's box. And then, you know, you had 85 the, the batting title chase with Dave Winfield.

SPEAKER 1: And so, but this card like I, I try to get the, these are one of those cards I don't really sell. I just try to get them and, and, and keep them and just an I to me, it's an iconic card. 12 years old was when I really started to ramp up, you know, I got started as a seven year old. But when you, you're seven, you're, you're really relying on other people to buy IU cards or I have, 12 years old.

SPEAKER 1: You can, you know, rake Les or mo laws and, and to start getting money for packs. And like I said, every dollar I had went into 84 packs. And, to me, when you think of Manly's rookie, right? You get the tops. That's you got the, you got the fear. But then is, is the card for me? From, from his rookie you know, card. So, I had to put it on the list.

SPEAKER 3: Love that card. I the 84 tops. Mattingly was one of my first.

SPEAKER 1: It is and that's, that's that I, I went after that too, but I, I was, you know, the, the thing was 84 diners I remember at the time it wasn't always in the stores like it, it was a lot harder to get.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah. So any time I went into a store and they had like 84 you know, depending on my financial situation at 12 years old, I try to buy as many of those packs. And in New York there was a lot of competition. You know, even my friends were trying to get the Manly card, right? Like I remember we are opening, you know, my friends are all near me. We all have 84 diver pack and you're looking at your pack.

SPEAKER 1: Did I get it? You're out of the side, out of your right eye. You're looking at your friend on the right, your friend. Did you get one? No, I didn't get it out of the next pat. Right. And then the sound when someone got, you know, pulled it like, yeah, you know, and, and that sort of thing. So, it just brings you back 12 year old me, you know.

SPEAKER 3: Brendan Ryan with another great car. The 84 Nestling mad loved the meal.

SPEAKER 3: That was, that was a great one. I like to just, you know, that madly has such memories for me. My first trip to Cooperstown was 84. My grandparents were still alive. They, they took me to the and I got my first box of cards. The full box that I ever got was a box of the 84 tops.

SPEAKER 3: And, and that madly card was, was the one that I've ripped every pack searching for. And I got a madly and a good and I just thought that was the greatest box in the history of boxes. And then I left it in the hotel drawer, and forgot to take it home with me.

SPEAKER 3: So, all right, what you got some cool stuff on your honorable mention list. What do you have? You know, we didn't you?

SPEAKER 1: Neither one of us mentioned this card. I thought maybe, I thought for sure. I might be, I don't know what I even delineated my five but 93 SPG, is, is, is another card that, probably should be on this list.

SPEAKER 1: I have bad nightmares of it because I sold a million of them because I thought it was sort of overrated and it was during my, my store years in 93 I had a, a card store and probably sold 100 and 50 of those between 93 and 94. I'm not crying.

SPEAKER 1: I mean, I made money but for what they're worth now compared to what I sold them for then thinking he was just a good looking Yankee shortstop. That would just be, you know, good or very good and not great. And that turned out to be the opposite. So 93 Jeter I it should be on that, that, that list, right?

SPEAKER 1: Here's one that I, I talked about an expensive card that didn't make will make only honorable mention because it's, it's so rare and, and so expensive. The 1990 tops, Frank Thomas, no name on the front.

SPEAKER 1: That's, you know, that's that's you like the.

SPEAKER 3: Card or is it just famous for the period?

SPEAKER 1: I think it's, it's iconic for the period, right? It's a card. I've never, I've never, and, and I've owned a lot of, you know, crazy stuff and I've never, you don't see a ton of them. Let's be honest with you. You know.

SPEAKER 1: And so, the reason I didn't put it in the, the five main cards and that, and, and, and it is because of the price and the, the rarity of it, it can, you know, I think, I think to make my list, it has to be obtainable in some form of, but you Can'T buy a 1990. No, no name Frank, but you're gonna, you're gonna get out your checkbook or your, you know, your paypal and, and, and pay a chunk of change for.

SPEAKER 1: But I think we have to put it on, the honorable mention list. I don't know if you want me just, I only have a few more and even a couple of sets, the 84 free update set, which I have, you know, was stolen, the key card were stolen from me. I did own it.

SPEAKER 1: That's a great set. I don't think there's a ton of those cards, out there and it's got, you know, talking about good and you got good. And Pucky Clemens, Strawberry Pete Rose is even in that 84 free update, set. How about 1991 tops? Desert Shield cards?

SPEAKER 3: Shield.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah.

SPEAKER 1: Right. You know, a as, as a set, right? I mean, the only difference between them and the 91 tops was the, the that gold, you know, desert shield em. But they were sold as a set, weren't they?

SPEAKER 1: No, they were sold in wax packed. I mean, they were sent Overseas. They made their way, back to the States and, and those are, you know, those car even, even commons in, in a, in a gradable condition, bring and you, you know, I'm seeing less and less of them.

SPEAKER 1: I don't know how many survived, the Gulf War and, and Overseas. So I think they're a rarity and I think it was kind of a novel idea that really was sort of unique. So 91 Desert Shield made my list.

SPEAKER 1: And you know, a plug, you know, Pacific came along in the nineties and, and I know they fizzled out in 2004. But Pacific really pushed the envelope with some of those inserts and, and foil cards. I mean, they kind of did the first Prism card.

SPEAKER 1: We, you know, Prism now was sort of, you know, I, I don't wanna say how, you know, they're great cards but Pacific kind of broke, you know, was the first to do it. And I think there's sort of underrated. So some of those Prism inserts, right are, are iconic and one last thing, you know, 1983 tops or, or I don't wanna say tops, just Tony Gwynn rookies to me, still, still undervalued player, right?

SPEAKER 1: And those rookie cards go for, for the player he was, and some of the, the stats where he rarely, you know, like they, they struck out less times in his whole career than some players do in a single season, you know, bat at 300 you know, when I, if someone asked me, hey, what if you just needed a, a base hit to win the game with two out, who do you want in the box?

SPEAKER 1: And, and I'm gonna probably say Tony Gwenn, every time there's some great choices that you could pick.

SPEAKER 1: But Tony Gwenn, Tony Gwinn, was the guy and you, you, you can buy his rookies in some cases for single digits or, or low double digits and, and I don't understand why and I, I try to buy him when, when you can get him for that because I think, I don't know if he'll ever get the, the just do hobby wise. But maybe hopefully someday, you know, Greg Maddox is the pitching version of, of Tony Gwyn. Doesn't get enough credit.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah.

SPEAKER 1: Has already quit.

SPEAKER 1: That's crazy. And I watched him even though he was a west coast player, I was a either way. Yeah. And I stayed up and watched him because he was such a great pure hitter and he, that he fouled, you know, ball after ball out because he didn't like the pitch.

SPEAKER 1: He couldn't put that like that's talent when you can just foul off pitches intentionally because you Can'T drive that to where you're trying to put it and then you get the one you, you want and then you, it gets grooved and, and he rips it for a single or a double and, just, a guy that, you know, gone too soon as well and, you know, doesn't get his, his just deserves as far as hobby love.

SPEAKER 1: I know he's a Hall Of Famer and, and write. So, but I think his cards are, are criminally, especially his rookie cards. They're criminally cheap. And I try to get them any time. I can.

SPEAKER 1: So I, I had, those are, those are my honorable mentions.

SPEAKER 3: Great, great calls. I just wanna, throw this card up there because I chased that Pete Rose Junior card from a classic, Pete Rose Junior. He was in, he was in the Orioles Minor system and that poor guy never had a chance and he, he was pushed so hard and he was not that good.

SPEAKER 3: And then my honorable mention Brendan just beat me to it.

SPEAKER 3: Definitely rip can.

SPEAKER 3: Er, it was all my honorable mention was kind of for this reason because because of the, the hype that there was no lack of production, you can find them very easily.

SPEAKER 3: Now there are a ton of.

SPEAKER 1: 14, there's 14 versions.

SPEAKER 3: Now there, there's, there can be more than that depending on who you talk to. There's a whole website dedicated to the card. It seems like every, yeah, I was gonna say Bill Ripkin dot com.

SPEAKER 1: That is, I mean, I know.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah. And I, I, you know, you're gonna miss some and that's great with the chat. We will fill in those blanks tonight for us, which they, they did a great job. Right. You Can'T. There's always something that's this one I, I slipped through, slipped through me, the 85 tops mcguire is another one. We, we both kind of slept a little bit on the 93 SPG.

SPEAKER 1: That might be more me just reliving the nightmare of selling about 100 and 50 of those in the two year span for like 30 to 40 bucks a piece and, and that sort of thing. But, and it, it just so many right?

SPEAKER 1: And, you know, with those new companies coming in, making some pushing the envelope and doing some things differently, you know, and, it's fun, man, like even talking about it tonight, like you, you go back, you know, I think of 12 year old me ripping 84 diners packs and you know, 17 year old me ripping 89 tops packs for, for Jeffries, ripping 89 upper deck packs for Jeffries.

SPEAKER 1: And some, some guy named Ken Griffey Junior who I like was my second favorite player after Ken, after Greg Jeffrey. So, you know, just fun stuff you brings you back to kind of when you got your, your early start and, oh, it's fun, you know, you Can'T really go back. But this is probably, the next best thing, right is, is talking about, that stuff and, and look, we learned stuff right here.

SPEAKER 1: The, the, the Bo Jackson picture appearing on two separate companies, you know, releases and, we don't really know how that's possible, but maybe we, we will 90 Lee Frank Thomas. I mean, we, we could do a three hour show with the, with this 20 years.

SPEAKER 3: That sounds good.

SPEAKER 3: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER 3: All right, Mr Newman. It's good to have you back. We have definitely gone into overtime here. So I'm gonna play the music to play us off. Anything else to add?

SPEAKER 1: We won't run the commercial, but I will just say no, no, we will, we will, we were having so much fun that's on me.

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SPEAKER 1: I bulk up for them for those that don't know, we just had a crazy order with a Joe DiMaggio rookie. A 1921 us Carmel Bay Ruth. Some Jackie, about 20 different mans, they just lowered their pricing.

SPEAKER 1: So when I sent this order in which was over 200 cards, I was worried how, how long it was gonna take with the lower pricing knowing they're probably getting, a lot more submissions and slammed and it was back in, in like nine days.

SPEAKER 1: So they're keeping up with the, the, the heavier submissions and, they told me they could and they're putting their money where their mouth is and that I, you know, I know they're a sponsor but I'm, you know, if anyone wants to, I can show you the dates and I can pull up that screen at nine days from, you know, when I sent it to, when it was come, come back.

SPEAKER 1: And so, and I'm impressed by that, especially with the lower pricing tiers. So, like sGC like PS A but those are, those are my two.

SPEAKER 3: I'd like to say that I'm not a group sub submitter or, but if you like, I mean, your cards randomly, I'll figure out something to do with.

SPEAKER 3: All right, this was a blast. This was, this was, this is a topic. I, I was glad we got to touch on because you and I are not too far apart in age and we grew up, you know, kind of on the same era and the same types of cards and, and, it was a fun time in the hobby and it was good to reminisce.

SPEAKER 1: Yeah. There's no real DeLorean like you see with Dr Emmett Brown and, and back to the future. So, this is the closest thing we can get to, to that. Yeah. Well, where roads? Well, we're going, we roads. We don't need roads.

SPEAKER 1: So, we didn't need any roads tonight and we took you back to the, to the eighties and nineties. And, you know, sometimes I get sad. I'm not gonna lie. Sometimes I sort of get sad because I'm like, it only happened once, right? We Can'T, we really Can'T go back there again for real, but we can talk about it. It's the next best thing and we only talk about baseball. I know we would have made this like all sports is this.

SPEAKER 3: Now, I'm already thinking about the Jerry Rice Rookie and Joe Montana. We could do a whole another episode of Joe Montana.

SPEAKER 1: Rookie is like the Ricky Henderson.

SPEAKER 3: I, I, how about how about nineties basketball? It's a whole another conversation.

SPEAKER 3: So everybody, we, we, we, yeah, we're about to start a whole another show just before we do that, I'm gonna play us out.

SPEAKER 1: Puffy Road 91 stadium club.

SPEAKER 3: Great card, John. Say good night, good night, good night, John. See you guys.